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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:57 am

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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:57 am

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i think alisae is more likely to get demotivated as scum based off my recent experience with er
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:58 am

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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:58 am

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hi struggling I'm Dann
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:58 am

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In post 1649, Dannflor wrote: why that's a thought you had
It's the first thing that came to my mind when i read that rule, figured it was better said than kept.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:59 am

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do you have any commentary on being in my PoE virtually most of this game?

Something omg
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:59 am

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ohhh

like maybe scum are specifically angling to get to choose the elimination?
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:59 am

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If you go cooperate with the players who think that I'm scum ringleader and we Lim Implo and he flips town what have we gained exactly when those same players will call my read on him TMI and push on me next?

I think that if you think I'm town my view of the game is entirely incongruous with Merlyn's whether she is town or scum and there's not really any compromise that works, you need to decide whose version of the game you believe in more and go with that because Merlyn is guaranteed townreading at least one scum and flipping Implo town isn't going to fix town unity whatsoever. The path to town unity is through flipping scum which I believe is Meuh and just deciding that town unity doesn't require listening to all voices. Beeboy saying his wagon is all the scum doesn't really need a seat at the table even if we think he's town. I don't want to comment further on Merlyn. If you individually think that Implosion is scum in spite of my dislike of the wagon and don't like the Meuh wagon despite all I've said then go ahead and wagon Implosion but don't expect it to fix any of the issues with town being unable to coordinate because town is simply never going to be able to fully coordinate in this game and we just have to play for enough votes to hit scum and accept that we are leaving some players out.
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:59 am

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i do not think that is correct but that is a towny thought
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:59 am

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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:00 am

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In post 1656, Dannflor wrote: ohhh

like maybe scum are specifically angling to get to choose the elimination?
Yeah, because this game has been weird with scum being near goddamn invisible and no one being able to agree on anything.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:02 am

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In post 1655, Taly wrote:
beeboy
do you have any commentary on being in my PoE virtually most of this game?

Something omg
I don't really care no, i think you are town
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:02 am

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*dies*
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:03 am

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In post 1662, Taly wrote: *dies*
Does my take bother you / feel like tmi?
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:03 am

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In post 1628, beeboy wrote:
In post 1623, Meuh wrote:
In post 1589, Mandate wrote: I have not played mafia in four years.
I made my account 2 and a half years ago? How could we have played together
I love playing with Mandate and Meuh the accounts that were made before 2016 when I was most active.
9 year old Meuh was the best mafia player :heart_eyes_cat:
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:03 am

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I can pretend to be mad about it if it makes you enjoy the game more imo
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:05 am

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In post 1651, Dannflor wrote: i think alisae is more likely to get demotivated as scum based off my recent experience with er
Yeah I agree with this
Don't see why we shouldn't give e more time to do stuff before settling on read there, though
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:06 am

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Perhaps (about the tmi) but I also doubt if my suspicion of you is warranted because that's not a thought I would have with other players in the same scenario.

I just don't think calling your wagon scum makes much sense.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:06 am

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In post 1658, Dannflor wrote: i do not think that is correct but that is a towny thought
what is towny about that thought
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:07 am

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In post 1657, Mandate wrote: If you go cooperate with the players who think that I'm scum ringleader and we Lim Implo and he flips town what have we gained exactly when those same players will call my read on him TMI and push on me next?

I think that if you think I'm town my view of the game is entirely incongruous with Merlyn's whether she is town or scum and there's not really any compromise that works, you need to decide whose version of the game you believe in more and go with that because Merlyn is guaranteed townreading at least one scum and flipping Implo town isn't going to fix town unity whatsoever. The path to town unity is through flipping scum which I believe is Meuh and just deciding that town unity doesn't require listening to all voices. Beeboy saying his wagon is all the scum doesn't really need a seat at the table even if we think he's town. I don't want to comment further on Merlyn. If you individually think that Implosion is scum in spite of my dislike of the wagon and don't like the Meuh wagon despite all I've said then go ahead and wagon Implosion but don't expect it to fix any of the issues with town being unable to coordinate because town is simply never going to be able to fully coordinate in this game and we just have to play for enough votes to hit scum and accept that we are leaving some players out.
But no I don't wanna ]:<
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:08 am

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In post 1667, Taly wrote: Perhaps (about the tmi) but I also doubt if my suspicion of you is warranted because that's not a thought I would have with other players in the same scenario.

I just don't think calling your wagon scum makes much sense.
fyi, i just happened to scum read people on my wagon and didn't think "why are you scum reading your wagon" was a reason to re-evaluate.
I agree with the statement it doesn't make sense to think my wagon is scum, but that isn't my thought process.

I feel like what I said got twisted at some point and I've just let it slide.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:09 am

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Which is maybe a valid way to twist my words cause I think I explained why I wouldn't adjust my reads more then I actually explained the reads themself.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:09 am

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Who do you think is the major proponent of that narrative shift on your stance
beeboy
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:10 am

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In post 1668, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1658, Dannflor wrote: i do not think that is correct but that is a towny thought
what is towny about that thought
idk it feels kind of unrealistic in a way that tends to come from town

like it's kind of a conspiracy theory that i don't really think holds any water but the fact that that was sakura's first reaction to apparently learning that information for the first time feels... just unlikely to come from scum

i don't know how else to explain it other than like i don't think scum ever thinks they can or should intentionally angle to end the day in a non-majority and as a by product i think it would be unlikely for scum!Sakura to think of that here
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:11 am

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aristeia are you holding back this game

i notice you aren't really death tunneling anyone yet

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