Toriel's Patience (end)

[Taly]

meuh

who is in your PoE?

[Meuh]

Dannflor
Aristeia was replaced by Random Nurse
Lazy Shirou
Brown Eyes
Alisae
implosion
beeboy

Kind of tempted to remove Beeboy from POE though

[Taly]

I think this convo is worth townbinning

Beeboy

beeboy

do you have any commentary on being in my PoE virtually most of this game?

Something omg

I don't really care no, i think you are town

*dies*

Does my take bother you / feel like tmi?

I can pretend to be mad about it if it makes you enjoy the game more imo

Perhaps (about the tmi) but I also doubt if my suspicion of you is warranted because that's not a thought I would have with other players in the same scenario.

I just don't think calling your wagon scum makes much sense.

Perhaps (about the tmi) but I also doubt if my suspicion of you is warranted because that's not a thought I would have with other players in the same scenario.

I just don't think calling your wagon scum makes much sense.

fyi, i just happened to scum read people on my wagon and didn't think "why are you scum reading your wagon" was a reason to re-evaluate.
I agree with the statement it doesn't make sense to think my wagon is scum, but that isn't my thought process.

I feel like what I said got twisted at some point and I've just let it slide.

Who do you think is the major proponent of that narrative shift on your stance

beeboy

?

No idea, it feels like an accident so I am not calling it misrepresentation on purpose. Twisting my words is also probably not accurate either, I am just not sure what to call it.
Me and Dunn had a really long conversation about it, this is likely where you got that idea, but I don't think it was a malicious one on his part. Or at least I don't think the malicious part was us reaching the point where people thought I was scum reading my wagon for the reason , since Dunn has stated he wondered why I wouldn't re-eval not like the narrative you said.

I've thought about it already in all honesty. And there isn't a point in crying about since Dunn said my stance was reasonable with my perspective and the general act of not re-evaluating was still scummy for people.

I really don't think scum says the last 5 posts

beeboy

has.

I kinda disagree, why would I not clarify my post as scum in regards to what you said.
Especially given arguing against half the point would probably look bad for me from a reads standpoint.

I really don't think scum says the last 5 posts

beeboy

has.

I kinda disagree, why would I not clarify my post as scum in regards to what you said.
Especially given arguing against half the point would probably look bad for me from a reads standpoint.

The way you did it. You had the full reign to assert a misrep and gave it up. You seem nonchalant to how the thread conceptualized your stance. Questioning how to characterize the idea on your stance is another thing I don't really think scum would do intentionally. And you contesting this makes me wonder of you're trying to sort me or someone else. It doesn't give me the impression thay you're trying to please or even pacify, almost the opposite.

Why correct me when my read benefits you?

I am a bored butt

Also I value your explanation tbh.

[Taly]

how do you feel about

freedom's

response to you/

implosion

?

[Meuh]

how do you feel about

freedom's

response to you/

implosion

?

The entirety of the read seems to hinge on an Implosion townread that hasn’t been explained? So I’d like some sort of explanation there
Freedom doesn’t seem to have an actual read on me individually
I just kinda want more explanation and information around it

[Meuh]

Going on a spiel, I think that the only scum!implo world is where Meuh is also scum.
At least, based off my knowledge of scum!implo, he is more than likely to bus D1.
That being said, I think town!implo is much more likely.

This seems like a big jump though, especially since Freedom doesn’t seem to have an actual read on me

[Meuh]

and also convenient, cause that logic allows Freedom to never vote Implo before me

[Ydrasse]

i’ve read the first 10 or so pages
i think that keyleth, brown eyes and dannflor are towny. maybe sakura hana
i don’t like meuh that much, not getting a lot from shirou or ari either
(i’m not elaborating my thoughts because i don’t wanna waste too much time bogged down in old stuff but if something is relevant lmk)

[Ydrasse]

taly is getting better ish
dann maybe trending down
don’t like implosion so far
(10->20)

[Ydrasse]

also beeboy town (?)

[Ydrasse]

ok read through 30 but i absorbed little from it so i’ll have to redo that later
i think im leaning towards spare

[Taly]

Part of 20-30 for me is Ari kicking my ass into gear and I start throwing votes at Shirou, Meuh, Dann, and eventually Beeboy

[Ydrasse]

yeah not a lot of the reasoning stuck with me tho

[Taly]

Eh I was mainly trying to sink my feet anywhere

[Ydrasse]

i think the meuh wagon rn is good

[Ydrasse]

rn’s intro to the game felt kinda towny too but i didn’t get anything of worth from what i saw of merlyns posts

[Ydrasse]

i confused my slots don’t look at the last post

[Ydrasse]

actually i think freedoms intro is curious in a wolfy way because he arrives and asserts dunn as town alongside implo but then the focus is on implo and meuh. i can think of one reason why it wouldn’t be wolfy but @freedom why is dunn town? and why is my slot wolf?

[Taly]

i do like

RN's

intro, it felt raw in a way i dont see scum in a rep often.

[Meuh]

VOTE: Freedom

[Keyleth]

Dannflor
Aristeia was replaced by Random Nurse
Lazy Shirou
Brown Eyes
Alisae
implosion
beeboy

Kind of tempted to remove Beeboy from POE though

VOTE: Freedom

I see Merlyn wasn't in your list before, was Freedom's intro that bad that you felt the need to vote it? Also, you've been in the hot seat for a lot of the day, sorry if you've said this already but have you noticed any differences in the way people have wanted to vote, and or push you? Wolfy or towny?

[Keyleth]

Also!

[Meuh]

I view votes more as a tool to nudge the game in certain directions than one to get someone limmed, unless we’re in a situation where a lim is going to happen soon. Freedom’s intro is bad but doesn’t outweigh Merlyn’s general towniness. It’s bad enough for me to want to nudge that way, though.

[Meuh]

Dannflor
Aristeia was replaced by Random Nurse
Lazy Shirou
Brown Eyes
Alisae
implosion
beeboy

Kind of tempted to remove Beeboy from POE though

VOTE: Freedom

Also, you've been in the hot seat for a lot of the day, sorry if you've said this already but have you noticed any differences in the way people have wanted to vote, and or push you? Wolfy or towny?

Not sure exactly what you’re asking here? Can you reformulate

[Keyleth]

okay i caught up
I think
Ari, Bee, Sakura, Shirou, Taly, and Key are all probably town.
Brown eyes is probably town as well.
Then there's Merlyn, Dunn, and Meuh. Meuh is kind of just unreadable to me.
And then there's Dann Implo Mandate
and I think Dann is the most suspicious. I think Dann's read on me is technically fine but I think they overexplained and overjustified it and I think that comes across as wolfy to me. They also screamed wolf to me early.
I think Dann is teammates w/ Implo

I was under the assumption that you haven't read at all, did you read every single page or how much did you get through?

Can you go into detail about your Ari read and anything else on your Dann read? Thank you!