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[Chell]

im just gonna do it no one can stop me

[Chell]

keylaga is not new however and i would want some serious reconsideration in an elo situation

[KeyLaga]

Its OK Chell, just keep being your townie self, and I will be my towny self and I am sure things will be working out.

[Chell]

OutWorld -- Very town focused, will need to re-focus to regain status, very town read.

do you have more detail on this read, keylaga

[Eiralox]

gamma when you are around i would like to hear you explain your stances on naerys, outworlder, and eiralox in more detail

please explain why outworlder is scum
please tell me why khaos is town
humor for a moment a world where eiralox is town. who voting eiralox can be scum and why?

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see ya'll in 2 days

[Eiralox]

Secondly, Eira I hope you don't mind me calling you that? Its not like a hidden insult or anything is it?

you can call me anything
the reason i mentioned it was i figured u voting 'eira' in the beginning gave me the though u might be an alt

*pe-edit damn got the order wrong update posts

ciao

[KeyLaga]

Outworlder

-- RVS entrance explosive, sincere querying of existing wagons/players, posits game theory of Bingle-scum, suspects Favor; fearless & strong town

Does this help enough or shall we go post by post for each point?

[KeyLaga]

Thanks Eira! Btw, I assure you that I have no active alts on this site.

[Eiralox]

I agree with very little of what he's saying, but I certainly think HE believes what he's saying.

ugh i'm getting you here but idk maybe it's tone, maybe it's my instinctual reaction but yeah i feel u key can actually be devout in these pushes. i've figured it can be a good troll but many times i look for the worst in people which isnt how i need to operate
this is the weirdest game i've played before tbh
i knew you were going to vote me just by seeing you posted
knew chell was hinting that they were going to vote me
and usually both these things would send my paranoia into overdrive maybe

with key it's that exact feeling it's just i couldn't shake that since they made that first vote on me they were judging whether they could get my elim through

but i've been waaaaaaaaaaaay off on people's tone before
and I ALWAYS vote out town day one if i vote on the main wagon
like only time i think i didnt vote out a town d1 was when i voted out a mime which is worse


so

imma go think on things

[Elements]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[Eiralox]

Thanks Eira! Btw, I assure you that I have no active alts on this site.

that's cool despite your pushes on me being horrible so far you've been kinda wholesome
i just can't put you as town yet cos idk im para u playin long game here by doing clever theatre
cos like if you're scum i think the way you post is ideal to get you townread perhaps
then again experienced scum might have pushes like chell's so idk
can't really decide and i'm tired reading

as i said i need to tap out rn

[KeyLaga]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[KeyLaga]

Outworlder

-- RVS entrance explosive, sincere querying of existing wagons/players, posits game theory of Bingle-scum, suspects Favor; fearless & strong town

Does this help enough or shall we go post by post for each point?

Furthermore, just ISO the guy. To me its more than clear that he is a skilled & motivated townie seeking scum, pushing cases, querying players and positing theories, just like yourself. The only problem right now is that he is taking a break and will need to re-focus; seeing his relatively extensive experience, I expect him to come back strong, relatively soon.

[Eiralox]

Thanks Eira! Btw, I assure you that I have no active alts on this site.

ok so you're saying outworlder is town?

exluding me which three people would you lean scum on?

Chell is saying OutWorlder is scum and Khaos town from what i saw. Do you also think Khaos is town?

[OutWorldER]

Outworlder

-- RVS entrance explosive, sincere querying of existing wagons/players, posits game theory of Bingle-scum, suspects Favor; fearless & strong town

Does this help enough or shall we go post by post for each point?

Furthermore, just ISO the guy. To me its more than clear that he is a skilled & motivated townie seeking scum, pushing cases, querying players and positing theories, just like yourself. The only problem right now is that he is taking a break and will need to re-focus; seeing his relatively extensive experience,

I expect him to come back strong, relatively soon.

you have more faith in me than I do

I'm like completely lost here tbh I should not have joined two games at once. when I asked for someone to make my Eira case for me I was being entirely serious I did not have the time to do anything but sheep Chell since she was lookin townie.

The only real observation I've been able to make is that OK's case on Chell looks like paranoid new town. I'm trying to catch up.

[KeyLaga]

I mean its a little rough to come up with 4 scum in a 13 player game, right? I mean I'm only town and so I only know so much. Due to POE I think that Khaos is town and also I will give him some townie points for what appears now to be a sincere attempt to play this game properly, as a townie would.

Don't really think Chell outright called Out scummy (I think this is a misrep) but only mentioned him in connection with an unflipped association (I am not a fan of this and avoid it wherever possible, noting "natural" unflipped associations that I perceive but definitely limiting them beneath actual reads on individual players).

Everyone in this game knows (for good or bad) how I feel about Elements being scum. Due to POE, I only have questions really about Bingle, being able to give Gamma & Naer town passes for now; if/when you flip scum Naer will definitely become strong town.

[Eiralox]

I'm like completely lost here tbh I should not have joined two games at once. when I asked for someone to make my Eira case for me I was being entirely serious I did not have the time to do anything but sheep Chell since she was lookin townie.

The only real observation I've been able to make is that OK's case on Chell looks like paranoid new town. I'm trying to catch up.

if you're town can you please unvote me? i'm back in two days so i'll leave you with this question: what do you think about naerys and chell?

[KeyLaga]

@Out: Do not worry sir! You have my protection and as much time as you need!

[Eiralox]

how I feel about Elements being scum.

you post a lot and i skipped a lot especially in the beginning. in essence are you sus of elements for trying to draw out a protective with a false claim? or what exactly? i saw a lot of what u said but i find your logic confusing. so if you have time please boil down why elements?

anyway eira out 4 real

[KeyLaga]

Just for the record, I believe that Eira is in AtE/Pocketing mode and if it were me, I would avoid being taken in, at least just yet...

[Eiralox]

Just for the record, I believe that Eira is in AtE/Pocketing mode and if it were me, I would avoid being taken in, at least just yet...

i'm asking questions and see who has to motivation to answer what

and i also know im not getting elimmed today

[OutWorldER]

Alright I think I'm mostly caught up:

VOTE: Naerys

I think I agree with Bingle's case here most of all, and honestly looking through the pages with an actual earnest eye it feels like Eira is getting mostly scumread for differences in playstyle rather than being actually scummy, and Naerys's post towards Eira here feel like that most of all and the thing that sells a Naerys vote here for me is it honestly looks like Naerys is cognizant of this fact.

re: Chell. I think she's town. I wouldn't have sheeped her vote onto you otherwise. I think the difference in how Chell is selling a case on you (Eira) and how Naerys is doing it is night and day.

[Eiralox]

so far you have answered, albeit vaguely in my eyes. perhaps you are sincere in the elements push your response is non indicative.
chell is yet to answer.
outworlder is yet to answer.

maybe it'll happen
maybe not

-fin-

[KeyLaga]

Nice question Eira. I can't really go into much detail on my Elements case, due to a ban on this for about the next 36 hours or so BUT here's what we know:

Elements lied about being informed
Elements lied about joking about being informed & tried to appear as organic townie enjoying the Informed theme
Elements forced a counter-claim from one of our town power roles
Elements is not playing this game as a townie, randomly wagoning and really revealing nothing; NOTE: I do not put very much stock in player lists with no explanations associated with them, even a child can do that.

I think this about as much as I can get away with at the moment because as it is, this post risks causing this thread to once again devolve into a warzone! XD

[Eiralox]

p-edit ok Out answered. p-edit2 and Laga

i'm leaning towards a Naerys vote maybe maybe.... bit more paranoid on Chell than before though...

but it's better if i break now