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[Gamma Emerald]

Swoop

[KeyLaga]

I don't know why but this VC of this wagon sticks out to me. In fact, I like it so much I think I will frame it and hang it in my living room:

Naerys (4): Bingle, OutWorldER, Eiralox, Elements

I am seriously at a loss for why I seem to like it so much; maybe its something in my subconscious?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Chell

Idk I'm pretty sure there's at least one scum one me but i've never seen such discordia in reasoning upon being pushed so
There has to be scum on me...
just has to be.
I really hope so.

I could be convinced to vote Chell
She kinda feels like gob from 245 when he was winding up his fabricated tunnel on me

[Gamma Emerald]

is anyone scumreading Key?

Mmm I dislike this, feels like trying to gauge the interest to determine if pushing there is a good idea

[KeyLaga]

Yes I believe you are indicating scum case shopping.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Elements
This or Chell are my immediate suspects I wish to vote out currently

[KeyLaga]

Sometimes the scum try and mislim for dear life. Has anyone ever seen that in their games?

[Elements]

@Gamma

Spoiler: Progression Quotes

VOTE: KeyLaga
Pretty sure Elements is trolling and Key taking the bait isn’t great.

To me it feels like a newbie town response

Should we run Elements up here under LAL?

Seems like fine lim for me

Hm...
Ele vs Key might be TvT
Also, greetings Doctor Drew

Naerys otoh, feels like an opportunistic pile on to someone who is getting a bunch of heat and refusing to engage over it. I'm also not a huge fan of the major uptick in activity right after I called out for people who hadn't done much of anything to receive scrutiny.

Nope. I find Eira´s posts to be suspicious. Its certainly deserving of putting some pressure on Eira. Everyone deserves scrutiny. How else am i to figure who is town and who is scum, if not from their reactions? I dislike D1 too, but thats not a reason for not trying to sort people out.

you're just sorting me
not touching all my spam
starting to think Bingle is 100% right on u

I dont understand. Of course i am trying to sort people. You and Elements belong to the suspicious group. Then there is null group, where are mainly people i would like to hear more from - Nurse, OutWorldER,Khaos.Also Binge is there, they are pretty hard for me to read.
As town i have Gamma, Celebloki,Kitty.
Chell,Drew and Laga i have yet to sort. Their time will come.

I am starting to believe OutWorldER-Laga-Elements contains atleast 1 scum.
Got bit of sidetracked while answering to Eira.
Element/Laga feels a bit like theatre early, later the argument feels genuine from Laga
Laga has some posts that feel towny and then some posts that do not sit really well with me.

Why is not outing that info smart?

I think you know already. I am willing to say I know you know, in fact.

It's something scum know, why would you not tell town?

WOW! The scum know this?? I THINK MOST CERTAINLY NOT! Why do I think this? Because here you are trying to justify your actions.

Then town aren't on the back foot and it tells the tp that crumbing in dangerous as scum could be looking out for it

I am certainly willing to have an actual conversation with you but I can't quite figure out what you mean by this last quote if you could please re-phrase it somehow?

Element feels fake, Laga geniune

The current resting place of Naerys' reads are:
Elements Scum
Key eh
Which is a very favorable position for scum to be in. Using Key's push to leverage my mis-lim, then easily able to push Key at a later date for being wrong about me.
The movement from TRing Key to putting some sus on the slot but also making sure people know there is more sus on me rubs me the wrong way.

the read change on you for feeling "like 245" just felt very un thought out to me. that one's a bit washy

[Elements]

is anyone scumreading Key?

Mmm I dislike this, feels like trying to gauge the interest to determine if pushing there is a good idea

I'm not guaging interest
I will be pushing Key later interest or not
I just can't think of anyone other than Eira that has expressed a scumlean on Key

also, you're giving me way to much credit for thinking into the future

[KeyLaga]

VOTE: Elements
This or Chell are my immediate suspects I wish to vote out currently

You are in EXCELLENT company Gamma!
Elements (1): KittyTacky

[KeyLaga]

Wow Elements I had no idea Naer was being so devious in my regard! I thought we had excellent townie relations but now you reveal she is secretly planning to kill me!? Wow I am filled with paranoia now!

NOT!

[Naerys]

I suppose being killed by envelope would hurt

[Elements]

Let's All Vote Key

A thought experiment

KeyLage currently has almost 400 posts. That's nearly the same amount as the other 3 top posters combined.
Key is clogging the thread
Most of what Key is saying is just repeating himself, not actually adding any new content to the game

Alive

If Key is town

Town Key will never be night killed. His insistant spamming will always and only ever serve scum.
Key is hard tunneling players. If any of these players are town, scum can use this to get an easy mislim and then push most of the blame onto Key, lining up yet another mislim.

If Key is scum

Key is forcing the game to center around himself. The shear quantity of his posts means it's impossible for there to be a meaningful interation that doesn't involve him, letting Key influence every part of the game.
Key's play seems to be largely townread so if scum it's clearly working for him.

Dead

The thread stops being spammed by repeated posts that don't really say anything or add to the gamestate

If Key is town

There are interactions between Key and every player, therefore it is a high info flip.

If Key is scum

Good job us, we've killed a scum

[Gamma Emerald]

No.

[KeyLaga]

vote KeyLaga

Truly scum this game, everyone must agree!

[KeyLaga]

You can fault elements tho! They REALLY DID TRY! XD

[KeyLaga]

*can't

[KeyLaga]

I suppose being killed by envelope would hurt

Death by 1000 cuts? OUCH! >.<

[Naerys]

Making a large number of posts isnt AI. Check large 244 where Flavor and Virgo made HUGE number of posts. Both were town.

[KeyLaga]

That KeyLaga case is pretty though with the colors and everything and very well done format. Thank you Elements for providing a VERY nice looking post into this thread!

[Naerys]

Element wants to lim Key for his playstyle. Sus.

[KeyLaga]

Making a large number of posts isnt AI. Check large 244 where Flavor and Virgo made HUGE number of posts. Both were town.

How dare you criticize my scum case against myself!?

Wow though excellent point and in truth, I must agree with you. However, scum CAN use this technique to control town. I personally would never do this intentionally as scum because its kinda sick; like using IRL issues as part of the game, like almost abusing the game, you know?

[Elements]

Making a large number of posts isnt AI. Check large 244 where Flavor and Virgo made HUGE number of posts. Both were town.

At no point have I said high post count is ai
It's detrimental to the thread and allows scum to hide if key is town

[Elements]

@Key
When I flip town, and when/if Eira flips town, where do you go from there?

[Elements]

Hey look