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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:09 am

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In post 2131, Lazy Shirou wrote: if both Ali/Meuh flip town on me I think this game could get spicy but right now I'm just bored waiting for the scummiest slots to die since I believe in my townblock
This is simply not a town Shirou mentality in my book
Even as "lazy" I just don't think Shirou gets so calm and okay with this
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:09 am

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Second page of the ISO just looks incredibly blegh all around
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:11 am

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iirc Shirou in Dance Party (as town) was all about pushing what he wanted, I feel like this circles back to earlier arguments, but Shirou is just way too passive
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:11 am

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Which would be more understandable if Shirou didn't have over 200 posts
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:12 am

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I simply think he doesn't care and I also think that scum doesn't care if I or Ali gets limmed here
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:13 am

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I can understand being lazier meaning less aggressive 1v1 with others and less engaged with the game (although I don't think Shirou is particularly disengaged), but I don't think it eliminates that passion and conviction that Shirou had in that game, it's just absent here
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:15 am

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In post 2072, Lazy Shirou wrote: here's my most recent scum game where i signed up as "lazy shirou" from the start too but quickly replaced myself as "Shirou" to tryhard given i was being suspected:

viewtopic.php?t=90333

i don't care to do that here or when i was fighting against mandate because although i very much would dislike being mislimmed for the second time ever (first was my second newbie game), i don't care about it enough to want to break my desire to be more casual here
In post 2073, Lazy Shirou wrote: as scum here i probably would have been more dramatic towards Mandate to attempt making our engagement look TvT, just like what i did towards town!Pooky pushing me in the game linked above

so yeah, i'm town and you're all welcome!
In post 2074, Lazy Shirou wrote: i don't mind never being spared that could be fun in its own way

i do dislike people putting me in the PoE for D1/D2 alongside Meuh/Ali when i think i've been significantly townier than either of them
In post 2075, Lazy Shirou wrote: even without any votes on me i feel slightly offended.
In post 2076, Lazy Shirou wrote: maybe i'm just not used to being suspected as town though

maybe i'll get more used to it this game

i'm trying my best to be a pleasant player to be around here
This feels like the way scum repackages frustration slightly to fit a town mentality and then posts it
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:16 am

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In post 2130, Lazy Shirou wrote: Ali is at E-2

I feel pretty okay about the lim

no other thoughts this game feels stagnated
Like is this town Shirou???
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:18 am

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Also if Shirou is town who's scum then??????
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:18 am

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Cause it's not me and it doesn't really feel like it's Ali right now
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:33 am

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In post 2239, Bingle wrote:
In post 2238, Taly wrote: if you think scum is okay with the gamestate, what mutually agreed upon townreads do you think are wrong?
That’s the problem, innit?

I don’t really see anyone as super scummy. I do think I’ve come up with a way to vastly improve our EV that may have been missed in the design of the setup though.

VOTE: No elimination
Even if we assume that no lim = mafia doesn't pick an elimination, I'm not sure it's worth wasting nights without a NK just to give a "second chance" to slots like Ali which probably aren't gonna be town read ever?

Meuh is trying more and could technically turn the suspicion around but I doubt Ali would do anything similar here
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:38 am

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In post 2250, Meuh wrote:
In post 2131, Lazy Shirou wrote: if both Ali/Meuh flip town on me I think this game could get spicy but right now I'm just bored waiting for the scummiest slots to die since I believe in my townblock
This is simply not a town Shirou mentality in my book
Even as "lazy" I just don't think Shirou gets so calm and okay with this
Cool theory?!

There's only one problem with it mhm...

The problem is that it's
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(town game where I didn't wage a thread war until D3 where I replaced myself to my main "Shirou" account):

viewtopic.php?t=90380&user_select%5B%5D=36942
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:45 am

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Two posts worth of note in the linked game:

In post 296, Lazy Shirou wrote: i don't have the confidence on calling scum correctly so

i just wanna say my thoughts + or - and leave it at that

i don't wanna hardpush anyone or pick fights

i don't even want to say my thoughts very much because i completely lack confidence at it but i figured it may be unfair to not post anything if i don't plan to try too hard later on. my iso so far is empty i guess
In post 523, Lazy Shirou wrote: being suspected is kinda tiring

I think I'm a bit more absent minded here but it's because...the whole game is that way?

We're all going in circles, and my strongest suspect isn't posting a lot so there isn't a massive case to dig on

I can be passive and also expecting me to be the unique one strongly pushing the game forward is just unfair

everyone other than Taly/Meuh is being kinda passive here, and one of those is being heavily suspected therefore has more incentive to want to change the gamestate as either alignment
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:49 am

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so once again, me being passive is still within my town meta

k thx
In post 2255, Meuh wrote: I can understand being lazier meaning less aggressive 1v1 with others and less engaged with the game (although I don't think Shirou is particularly disengaged), but
I don't think it eliminates that passion and conviction that Shirou had in that game, it's just absent here
What conviction should I've here?

I'm not super confident Ali flips scum, it just seems like the best flip given no one townreads her and this is a game about sparring townreads

I already explained how if Dunn is town, we only need 5 correct townreads and that's a game win.

I gave away my townblock and suggested everyone did too, what else should I be doing dear Meuh?
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:50 am

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I want to emphasize AGAIN that:

If Dunn is town we only need 5 correct TRs to win here.

Start discussing a consensus townblock if there's nothing else to discuss.
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:51 am

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A townblock of 5 people to be clear

No reason whatsoever to include people there other than the 5 towniest slots

It would just give a chance for scum to insert themselves
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:53 am

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There's also a ~secret~ reason that we don't want to include anyone other than 5 slots but that's only gonna be revealed in the future!
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:55 am

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In post 2132, Lazy Shirou wrote: [Taly, Beeboy, Merlyn, Sakura, Ydrasse]

I think this is all town
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My Elite Five,

Ydrasse is town there because of Mandate's posts

I know some people are gonna argue for Key to be there rather than Idk, Merlyn? I think I could compromisse on that but I would rather not, Key hasn't done much for awhile here
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:56 am

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Actually...

wow it's been 5 days and 6 hours (right now) since Key last posted.
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:57 am

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I also know Merlyn was replaced but I haven't memorized very well who is Merlyn right now

I need to keep checking the opening post given the amount of replacements
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:06 am

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"No Elimination" is not a decision. I won't count votes for "No Elimination"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:13 am

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fuck
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:14 am

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meuh
can you link some of your town and scum games?
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:15 am

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In post 2269, Lazy Shirou wrote: I also know Merlyn was replaced but I haven't memorized very well who is Merlyn right now

I need to keep checking the opening post given the amount of replacements
Merlyn was my predecessor.
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:20 am

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Oh yeah Freedom

Your posts are kinda blegh but don't override my read on Merlyn yet

You also feel a bit more active than I remember you as scum
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