If it's between Meuh and Alisae i... dont really know which one to vote, but i'd probably go back to Meuh now that Alisae's actually playing. I'd rather eliminate freedom tho.
In post 2401, Sakura Hana wrote:
If it's between Meuh and Alisae i... dont really know which one to vote, but i'd probably go back to Meuh now that Alisae's actually playing. I'd rather eliminate freedom tho.
then vote there but explain why
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"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
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In post 2401, Sakura Hana wrote:
If it's between Meuh and Alisae i... dont really know which one to vote, but i'd probably go back to Meuh now that Alisae's actually playing. I'd rather eliminate freedom tho.
then vote there but explain why
I thought I already did, but Merlyn's vote on me gave me weird feelings. VOTE: freedom
I’ve been thinking about it and I think here more than in a regular game, we want more informative flips than just killing meh slots. Meh slots can just not be spared.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
In post 2406, Meuh wrote:
I’ve been thinking about it and I think here more than in a regular game, we want more informative flips than just killing meh slots. Meh slots can just not be spared.
In post 2406, Meuh wrote:
I’ve been thinking about it and I think here more than in a regular game, we want more informative flips than just killing meh slots. Meh slots can just not be spared.
is freedom not a meh slot to you?
Alisae and Freedom are both meh in terms of alignment but Freedom is a meh with more energy to it
Alisae is meh
Freedom is
can you try to distinguish why
i value feeling based reads like that and im inclined to agree but i think it’s… worthwhile to try and translate that into in game posts or reasons
I think having two people in the slot helps with distinguishing associatives
Freedom and Merlyn both feel rougher around the edges in a way that would always make me question their alignment, but that I think could be more informative on a flip than Alisae’s posting that I just find less evocative
In post 2413, Meuh wrote:
I think having two people in the slot helps with distinguishing associatives
how so?
Freedom and Merlyn both feel rougher around the edges in a way that would always make me question their alignment, but that I think could be more informative on a flip than Alisae’s posting that I just find less evocative
In post 2414, Meuh wrote:
I also think RH9 (I know it’s an alt but some amount of meta can still be applied) and Merlyn are easier for me to read than Alisae
if they’re easier to read, why would you want to flip them first when you’re currently at most meh on them?
i ask because meh is a mild, imo, take on someone’s alignment and trying to flip them based off of that and this reasoning is confusing to me
I’d want to flip Alisae in a regular game cause Freedom would be easier to parse in the long run
The issue is that we’re town hunting, and the issues I have with Freedom’s posting kind of locks the slot out of being a good spare in my eyes?
Like for me, both Alisae and Freedom should never be spared, but we get the information of the flip from one of the players, and I’d rather that be Freedom
Though I should actually do the math on how low the playercount will get near the end, maybe there is a scenario where we have to spare a slot like Freedom
In post 2417, Ydrasse wrote:
and what do you think their flip informs us of?
Potential partners, the scum agenda
Seems like a setup where scum have to push a specific agenda to end up winning (especially if Dunn is town) and looking at what agenda’s being pushed is good and probably more discernable in a slot like Freedom
okay so can you actually quote and explain like i’m five freedoms posts that you dislike you’ve referenced them already in your iso but it seemed like you were just gently pressing there, but then you’re saying that you thought merlyns posting was rough around the edges while saying you thought she was town while she was here and using her read on you to prop up your slot a bit
and now it feels like you’re trying to vote freedom without there really being a good reasoning behind it? i understand everyone’s struggling for scumreads but the justification for this vote is wrapped up in stuff that i feel isn’t really relevant.
like maybe what i’m trying to say is that you’re over explaining and i think it makes more sense to shear away a lot of it to focus more on alignments. maybe i don’t like this being boiled down into, fmpov, an info flip when i disagree we get much of what you’re saying we do from said flip. idk it just doesn’t feel real to me.
and i think it’s more bizarre to me because you’ve proven this game you can do a close reading of someone’s posts and make a coherent case but the last posts in your iso are way more… theoretical.
In post 2398, Taly wrote:
what's a "shitlog" reason if your soul is saying its town?
That’s kind of the point. I can’t explain why Dann comes across as town. There’s no post I can point to and go “ayup, that’s a towny thought process”. There’s no progression that can’t be scum spinning shit to look good. There’s not even a sense that Dann has a natural or genuine tone. There’s just… I don’t want to think he’s scum. Maybe it’s because I like playing with Dann and reading his posts. Maybe it’s just that I think he’s good and I want to be able to rely on him. But I can’t help but thinking if Dann really is town here I should have more to my read of him than just wanting him to be town, yknow? And if you do can you explain it to me?
In post 2421, Ydrasse wrote:
like maybe what i’m trying to say is that you’re over explaining and i think it makes more sense to shear away a lot of it to focus more on alignments. maybe i don’t like this being boiled down into, fmpov, an info flip when i disagree we get much of what you’re saying we do from said flip. idk it just doesn’t feel real to me.
and i think it’s more bizarre to me because you’ve proven this game you can do a close reading of someone’s posts and make a coherent case but the last posts in your iso are way more… theoretical.
