Toriel's Patience (end)

[Lazy Shirou]

Also for the AtE versus Mandate I guess

[Lazy Shirou]

That double vote makes me feel a bit uneasy...

How so?

because it happened just after I voted Meuh?

It picked up speed and it gives me a bit of cold feet but I do still think Meuh is one of the most likely slots to flip scum here

[Lazy Shirou]

I would ask we wait for Random Nurse to be properly replaced and their slot give an opinion about Meuh before we hammer

I think Ari can be scum but doesn't have a lot of content and it would be helpful to have the slot take a stance before we proceed for D2

UNVOTE:

[Lazy Shirou]

I'm still voting Meuh in spirit to be clear.

I just want the Ari/Nurse slot to do SOMETHING because neither of them have done much of anything for the whole D1

[Lazy Shirou]

If meuh flips town it has wolves all over it

funny you say that because I think the same about the Freedom wagon

[Meuh]

I think I'm probably being premature when my gut says to take Meuh out of the PoE; I think probably she should still be in there when compared with the rest of the game, she's had like, some good individual posts but I don't really feel like she's done much that isn't fakeable as a scum who pops in to the thread, does a round of Faking Stuff, then leaves; i.e., I don't think she has any particularly challenging-to-fake progressions, or particularly original/nuanced reasoning that would be hard to fake, or anything like that. A part of her recent posting feels a little bit defeatist, and I don't want to use that term in a negative way exactly - just like, compare someone like Taly, who seems viscerally annoyed that she keeps finding new reasons to townread people. Like, I suspect Taly is going to read this post I'm making right now and go "fuck, i guess i was right that implo was town" and be annoyed at that. I think that's the emotional state that this game is kind of imposing on townies, and I don't really get any feeling of deep concern over the correctness of Meuh's reads coming from her. She's kind of parked her opinion on me to be some sort of broad suspicion but not a push. She did the case on me after ISOing me but like, from what I can tell she has not substantively commented on a post I have made in around five days. I don't think that's the behavior of town who has the stance she does on me in the gamestate we're in, where like, I think the average voice in this game is mostly-but-not-confidently townreading me. She should be either talking to people about why I'm scum, or looking at my posts and evolving her read on me in response to them, or trying to suss me out, or like, interacting with me or my content in any way.

Unvote

VOTE: Meuh

I've re-convinced myself. Still okay with an Alisae lim as well now though, but.

This isn’t why Implo thinks I’m scum or how he convinced himself, it’s him justifying turning back.
On a surface level, the things I have done aren’t necessarily super helpful or justify a townread, but Implo never actually shows that he scumreads me. He’s just saying that the position in which I exist is one where a scumread on me is justifiable, and then plops a vote back down. To the people who think my Implo read lacks a backbone, this should be sounding the alarms.
He says he SHOULDN’T take me out of the POE. He says I SHOULD be more actively be trying to sort him. It’s going down a checklist of productive town behaviours and checking yes or no, it’s not trying to sort me.

[Meuh]

Sure I’m defeatist, sure I “should” be more actively sorting Implo, sure other townies have provided meatier content, sure my progressions can be faked.
But am I scum? Implo doesn’t ask himself that question. He just explains why a world in which I am scum can exist.

[Meuh]

Either Implo is scum who wanted to thoroughly outline reasons before voting me, or Implo is town who got actual townpings from me, but faced with the gamestate, forced himself back into a scumread on me, in which case I urge him to reconsider.

[Taly]

WHO'S GOING TO GIVE ME HEADPATS NOW

I was the first person in the whole game to actually suspect Meuh

If she flips scum I'm the one that deserves "headpats"

I dunno why you're soft claiming to be the reason we're going for Meuh here when you've been way too open to alternative wagons including me one of the main people pushing Meuh through the game

You take me too seriously

I'm a borderline shitposter with a gamer complex, but if you want to pick apart why I'm flighty with votes I suggest you evaluate how boring this gamestate has gotten at some points.

I've just had a consistent scumread on

Meuh

based on reasoning I don't know how rock solid it is because this is ny first run-in with them in recent memory.

Let me have my fun and fuck around and you can grill me if it brings consequences

Honestly the unique reason I town read you is for the hyper activity Taly.

I do NOT like your posts at face value and I think most of the engagements you get into do not progress the game.

You're right, because my posts are designed to help MY perception of the game and anybody else can look at my engagements and do or think whatever they want with them.

I wonder what made you feel so inclined to say this.
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On another note, I should at least give

Dann/Freedom[

another look for due diligence.

[Taly]

Now I have to call my insurance company to get them to pay 1k worth of therapy because they don't seem to understand I'm covered by them

[Ydrasse]

why didn’t meuh respond to the freedom stuff and go back to the implo well

[Taly]

SvS

[Meuh]

So true

[Meuh]

why didn’t meuh respond to the freedom stuff and go back to the implo well

It’s easier

[Taly]

:/

Meuh

I'm sorry if I really am just misled with you but I cannot think of a town-aligned perspective to justify your posts.

If you're town, can you please help me here?

[Ydrasse]

[quote=Meuh post_id=13988673 post_num=2488 time=1700055204 user_id=35371]
[quote=Ydrasse post_id=13988670 post_num=2485 time=1700054974 user_id=34307]
why didn’t meuh respond to the freedom stuff and go back to the implo well
[/quote]
It’s easier
[/quote]

okay well don’t ignore it even if it’s harder

[Ydrasse]

yikes

[Taly]

ydrasse

how do you feel about the

meuh/freedom

wagon development?

[Ydrasse]

troubled
i’m having a hard time discerning scum, i think meuh could be because her arguments lately haven’t been it for me but i don’t feel like there’s a lot to solve freedom off of. i think atp either of those two wagons are the best option but… meh. low confidence on alisae town rn.

[Ydrasse]

like i dislike on an illogical level killing someone who is trying or posting because i then have to wonder if i’m not getting something about the game

[Meuh]

I’m in class rn but I wanna ISO dive Freedom later since I should have time
How much time do we even have left? Also a vc would be nice

[Taly]

what catches my eye

shirou

is that you're gatekeeping why town is eliminating

meuh

by asserting that i dont have as much power as i think i do and emphasizing that you earned credit simply by being the first person to come to the conclusion, on a post i made that i thought was very obviously a meme.

should i have added a tonal tag like /j?

your tone doesnt match the scenario

[beeboy]

It is now morning

[Alisae]

It is now morning

Hi bee tell me what to do

[Taly]

beeboy

how do you read 2373 and 2374?