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Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:04 pm

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You have to understand, I think it's 8 to elim since 14 players.
The doublevoter is not voting.
Village needs 8 votes to vote off a wolf while Mafia needs to convince 5 villagers. If you convince the doublevoter, you need to convince 3 villagers other villagers.
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Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:11 pm

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In post 2574, Alisae wrote: idunno why I had a 4 player wolf team in mind
I honestly thought that it was just your PoE.
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Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:11 pm

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As in
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Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:13 pm

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Uh brain now a potato from medicine

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Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:31 pm

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In post 2575, Alisae wrote: You have to understand, I think it's 8 to elim since 14 players.
The doublevoter is not voting.
Village needs 8 votes to vote off a wolf while Mafia needs to convince 5 villagers. If you convince the doublevoter, you need to convince 3 villagers other villagers.
village also needs 8 votes to vote off a villager with no help from the mafia

this is not an argument
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Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:32 am

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presenting: my spirit animal

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Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:40 am

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In post 2575, Alisae wrote: You have to understand, I think it's 8 to elim since 14 players.
The doublevoter is not voting.
Village needs 8 votes to vote off a wolf while Mafia needs to convince 5 villagers. If you convince the doublevoter, you need to convince 3 villagers other villagers.
meuh
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its either a bus for the potential to be spared as we're likely going to do
Mercy
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or- if
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is actually town, scum are still content with this wagon, but counters are still ideal because they dont get a NK, and rely on suspecting many players at once.

an even more optimistic viewpoint-

the scum are actually getting bodied and have very little thread control, and im not talking about activity, but anything to seriously get off the ground.

in this playerlist, i honestly think town wins most of the time.
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Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:44 am

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its probably valid to say that im deathtunneling
meuh
, but 5 other slots will make more sense to me when i flip this slot.

its not just a scumread

its objectively a flip that will help me understand where and how to evaluate my reads.
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Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:47 am

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and i dont think the alignments of
freedom, shirou, dannflor, alisae, implo, sakura
will change my view here, unless the solve is literally a team in this group.
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Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:52 am

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on another note, i figured out who the 3-4 slots i would spare pre-flip info

and its really not what my original readslist was.
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Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:54 am

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i also keep passively trying to get
meuh
to challenge me and it never happens, which makes me consider a lack of self-belief in being town.
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Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:58 am

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In post 2585, Taly wrote: i also keep passively trying to get
meuh
to challenge me and it never happens, which makes me consider a lack of self-belief in being town.
I’m town btw
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Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:58 am

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In post 2581, Taly wrote:
In post 2575, Alisae wrote: You have to understand, I think it's 8 to elim since 14 players.
The doublevoter is not voting.
Village needs 8 votes to vote off a wolf while Mafia needs to convince 5 villagers. If you convince the doublevoter, you need to convince 3 villagers other villagers.
meuh
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Don’t I have like 7 votes? Didn’t seem to have been too difficult to me :lol:
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Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:59 am

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id say its pretty moderate in difficulty given that majority of the other wagons this dayphase can be considered a counter
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Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:00 am

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Has any other wagon gotten anywhere?
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Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:02 am

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Freedom, Alisae, Implo, Beeboy, Dannflor
have all been suspected slots with sizeable talking points

Alisae
was almost eliminated

Freedom, Dannflor, and Beeboy
have all had wagons atp,
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Implo
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Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:03 am

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This thread actually isn't barren of scumreads, it's just a slow burn
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Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:04 am

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who would you spare
meuh
?
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Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:05 am

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Eesh with Alisae/Beeboy/Freedom being the most significant wagons other than me, we were never hitting scum today were we
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Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:06 am

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i don’t see what you see in sakura from that post you made
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Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:07 am

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In post 2592, Taly wrote: who would you spare
meuh
?
Dunn (if that counts)/me (that counts)/You/Ydra/Beeboy
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Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:08 am

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idk if you’re town i’m really struggling i guess to find you. like even nitpicky things are jumping out to me (saying freedom was unfortunately townie) and nothing else feels worth switching to wagon for me
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Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:08 am

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In post 24, Meuh wrote: VOTE:
Beeboy
In post 901, Meuh wrote: My main thought in 34/35 waa Beeboy scum and then suddenly an avalanche of votes on 36
I’ve already been voting Beeboy since RVS but I’ll vote again to be all dramatic about it
VOTE: Beeboy
In post 2112, Meuh wrote: VOTE: Alisae
In post 2310, Meuh wrote: VOTE: Alisae
In post 1894, Meuh wrote: VOTE: Freedom
In post 2405, Meuh wrote: VOTE: Freedom
I have more substantial feelings there at least
Repeat that again?

What do you mean by
"we're never hitting scum today if its
alisae/beeboy/freedom
"
?
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Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:08 am

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I don’t really have a solid townbloc at this point (nor do I think it’s high priority despite Shirou asking for townblocs and others being happy with that)
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Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:08 am

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if those 3 were the most significant counters
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