Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[Prism]

I also really, REALLY recommend doing at least one triple ISO if you're interested in sorting based off of interactions (i.e. @T3).

Fire's flip is incredibly useful because it is establishes the baseline for camel's S/S interactions, which was much higher than I thought.

Spoiler: Some samples so you can get an idea of what the bar is

just not that great of a crewman, i guess

i don't like jjhs end of day a lot

VOTE: jjh927

what

did you even read post-hammer

also ffs stop posting

This is not answering my question
if ur going to call someone scummy for something, how about quote it and give some reasons for it.
ur empty posting right now

Spoiler: some jjh posts attacking titus and std that sound like a setup for day 2

Well, that's one way to completely throw away all the towncred you bought through your recent efforts, Titus

Does Titus even effort like this as scum in hindsight?

I don't think I ever played with scum!Titus but she's definitely one of the most efforting slots in the game right now when most other slots are coasting by.

p-edit: oh thanks! let's wait for Dann now I guess.

Yes?

I've also seen scum!Titus parrot the same kind of crap about town unity etc

Right now STD's reads are on the same intellectual level as a child talking about vegetables

excuse you

Are you ready to talk specifics about what you liked/disliked about Alisae's posting or are we going to remain on the "I didn't like it, but then I liked it for a bit and now I don't like it any more again" level

Like, I find it hard to believe anyone of any alignment would make that post but there it is

Good extended conversation and followup.

VOTE: Snivy

didn't see the post prior

dude can you not

i don't want to be voted for the sake of being voted

Great tonal reaction to being voted, and this was actually one of the big reasons I backed off of Fire.

speaking of which, {jjh927, std, andres, imaginality} are in my poe, i could compromise on {T3, Prism} but i dont think we'll get there

Yeah one of T3 and Prism is definitely scum here

Pedestrian but small followups/dialogues happen like this regularly.

[Prism]

I'm taking a break because that was ~850 posts, hopefully it gets easier/faster as 500 will be repeated every time.

Town bucket right now is gob/Ydrasse. Still to sort are jjh, T3, Dragons, imaginality.

[Prism]

i don't think it's gob or t3, but i want to check fire's relationship with people.

i don't know why fire left in any pairing so i'm a little confused.

Meanwhile in 5 days we have one post from our legendary scumhunting hero.

[T3]

The extended back and forth with camel starting at post 1935 seems incredibly genuine, like Ydrasse is annoyed that camel is taking Titus off the table. I think this is very town-indicative.

I though so too

[Prism]

I didn't get around to everything I wanted to today but whatever.

TBH I'm probably just going to vote Dragons. I saw multiple good reasons to townread literally everyone else in that triple ISO, while the only strong +town for Dragons was Firebringer's vote in 2967. Other tonal interactions were plausibly clearing to me yesterday but the new Fire/Camel sample showed me that was in error.

It's strong but I suspect I'm going to find stronger from everyone else. My best guess is that Fire was hoping the wagon would naturally defuse. I was hardshoving Andres at that point, and much of Fire's play was already angled at framing Andres. Fire completely 180'd on the Dragons slot with that vote. The only other big question here is why the fuck Dragons stayed over Fire except to troll/cause chaos.

I'm still going to go through the full motions but yeah. I'm still going to reread all of the slots but after my earlier readthrough I think I already know where this is going.

[T3]

@T3)

I did an imaginality triple ISO, I didn't gain much from it.

[T3]

^this was earlier today btw

[Prism]

I had an extremely mean post here. I deleted it. This one is imperfect but nicer. I'm extremely annoyed that Dragons is, for the third time in a row with me, disappearing completely in an endgame situation and waiting for other players to lose the game for him so he doesn't have to risk losing it himself.

It will give me some happiness if my instinct is correct and he is scum this game, but I am incredibly bitter if he is town, because I will get to play the scapegoat for actually taking risks and trying to win.

[Prism]

I did an imaginality triple ISO, I didn't gain much from it.

I thought a lot of the utility came from being able to see how Fire/camel interacted, because I think those set the bar. I think Ydrasse's early questioning of camel being S/S is a very realistic scenario, even though that's not my conclusion.

If you disagree and it didn't nudge anything for you, shrug. I don't think we've come out very differently on Ydrasse at the end of the day, and I don't think the way to read you is interrogating this specific line of reasoning.

[T3]

Yeah, I mean, we can agree to disagree to agree. Your analysis of ydra made sense, I'm a bit tired right now but I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think it's gob or t3, but i want to check fire's relationship with people.

i don't know why fire left in any pairing so i'm a little confused.

Meanwhile in 5 days we have one post from our legendary scumhunting hero.

that's cool i didn't claim that but let's talk down to me anyway for fun

[Prism]

Fair enough. And Dragons, when you inevitably get in, by my own standards my content is pretty lax today. I'm currently 0 for 3 on voting. I don't like the idea of going 0 for 4, but if I'm holding the ball as time is expiring, I am going to shoot the ball.

You have your chance today. Shoot the ball.

P-Edit: Welcome back.

[Prism]

that's cool i didn't claim that but let's talk down to me anyway for fun

Your defense to my playstyle critiques for time immemorial has been that it delivers results and good reads. That's a lot more than I've laid claim to, which is probably the smartest choice I've made all game since I'm 0 for 3.

I don't think noting your absence in the endgame is unfair.

[Prism]

it's not even bad play

as town i have some moments of brilliance doing what i do

Given the degree of struggle we've all had with the current game, which is an unusually difficult one, it's an unfair request, but it would be nice to see one of these in my lifetime. Vindicate yourself, carry me to a W instead of waiting to take a moral victory in an L.

[imaginality]

I didn't get around to everything I wanted to today but whatever.

TBH I'm probably just going to vote Dragons. I saw multiple good reasons to townread literally everyone else in that triple ISO, while the only strong +town for Dragons was Firebringer's vote in 2967. Other tonal interactions were plausibly clearing to me yesterday but the new Fire/Camel sample showed me that was in error.

It's strong but I suspect I'm going to find stronger from everyone else. My best guess is that Fire was hoping the wagon would naturally defuse. I was hardshoving Andres at that point, and much of Fire's play was already angled at framing Andres. Fire completely 180'd on the Dragons slot with that vote. The only other big question here is why the fuck Dragons stayed over Fire except to troll/cause chaos.

I'm still going to go through the full motions but yeah. I'm still going to reread all of the slots but after my earlier readthrough I think I already know where this is going.

To be honest I can see why Fire would leave in that scumteam given people mostly concluded StD is town because of camel leaving end of D2. The scumteam may have figured StD continues to get a ride through today.

I think T3 is probably town because I think scum T3 probably doesn't want to townread Ydrasse today.

[jjh927]

On a meta level, maybe worth noting that a scumgame that Fire was scum in abruptly ended with Firebringer's elimination while this game was in night phase and it is entirely possible he may have been concerned I would reevaluate

[T3]

scum T3 probably doesn't want to townread Ydrasse today.

Yeah, probably not. Maybe I'd wait to see what Prism does too.

[Save The Dragons]

i'm pretty stumped. I would love to be able to say i have an answer but firebringer was not on my radar, alisae was scummy imo. I did think titus and andres were like to be town but that's not worth anything especially when i helped kill andres.

I don't think it's prism, i don't think it's t3, i don't think it's gob due to interactions.

i don't know that imaginality stays and fire goes if it's imaginality. but i could be blinded by my own thoughts.

i don't think ydrasse stays if she's scum.

i want to take a closer look at jjh interactions but i don't really think it's him either

so at least one of my assumptions is just off

[Prism]

What do people generally think of jjh? I'm usually at a "hard no" but I definitely want to interrogate the question, especially since he's a player that was safer from elimination than Fire (I was probably safest followed by him/gob?)

[Prism]

Reread imaginality. The game is still very hard.

I walked away from it feeling that the pairing was very plausible.........until I got to Fire's vote in 3801. This vote stays on through an E-1 scare, Fire makes some attempt to sell it, and it's the other vote of his when he's playing cat and mouse with Shirou at the end.

It's a hard game and falling ill put me behind not just in this game but in my classes, and I'm not going to get to read all I want to. It's hard, we've gotten outplayed, and damn this sucks. I'm going to give this slot a 5 even though the vote alone should probably make it a 9.

The only other point of real interest I saw was this:

Tempted to just vote imaginality but maybe Andres stops by before dayend

VOTE: Titus

These are about 30 minutes apart with not many posts in between. Fire was on camel before this, and camel blitzes 6 minutes later.

Had I swapped over, imaginality would have been placed at E-1.

[jjh927]

Yeah, firebringer was given the deciding vote on Titus/Imag. Camel would not have been able to blitz Imag

[imaginality]

Pretty sure they weren't expecting me to get as widely townread from the "why did camel leave first if imaginality is also scum" angle and were hoping to make me the D3 mislim.

@Prism I've been kinda assuming jjh as town because of others' townreads (similar to why I eased up on gob). But my POE right now looks like it's either StD or jjh so...

[gob]

StD is just unlikely all things considered. Does anyone have JJH, imaginality m, ydrasse scum games?

I have a hard time thinking its JJH here since his logic has been consistent and non-agenda’d.

[T3]

What do people generally think of jjh? I'm usually at a "hard no" but I definitely want to interrogate the question, especially since he's a player that was safer from elimination than Fire (I was probably safest followed by him/gob?)

Town, probably. There's the obvious "why did he try so hard yesterday" a

maybe

that could be explained by him not wanting to be pushed by you?

[Prism]

I'm trying to rally my spirit but flagging. Whatever spirit I had at daystart was killed when I fell sick and got behind in my real-life obligations, unfortunately.