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Post Post #2975 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:26 am

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Post Post #2976 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:31 am

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In post 2702, Ydrasse wrote: like if im honest i feel less strongly about dunn maybe scum than i was a few hours ago because i was just very annoyed by it happening and i think the logic of killing someone because we will never spare them despite us not /entirely/ being locked into sparing is jarring. i guess because its the assumption of sparing? maybe im reading it too uncharitably and dunn was talking about the potential sparing world but it didnt feel like that to me and im afraid of a game where we go to the spare route and dunn is a wolf and suddenly the room for error is zero because it is a lot less fun to solve at that point
You were free to engage with my logic the three times I posted it before hammering. You and your slot have been pushing Meuh very hard so don't try to point this at me; I didn't even think that was mafia but don't act like you would have spared Meuh when it's very clear that you would not have and you would have continued to tinfoil Meuh as mafia had she still been alive.
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Post Post #2977 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:32 am

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In post 2703, Ydrasse wrote: it's so weird that i replace mandate and now everyone's suddenly like oh... well maybe not town...
like in a frustrating way because this is me like ... trying my best to solve
and i feel like i am being seen as a lesser player lol
And I still think you're town, to be clear. I just think you're being disingenuous to try to make yourself look better post flip which is a little irritating.
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Post Post #2978 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:33 am

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In post 2731, Taly wrote: i think its less likely scum does it because its showing a belief in a town alignment to defend or understand ones predecessor

its fakeable, but i view predecessors like dead masons or dead scum partners

viewing your predecessor with either curiosity, critical thinking, or understanding is a sign of good faith that is AI
I think mafia are more likely to be talking about their predecessor like that though
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Post Post #2979 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:45 am

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I thought Brown Eyes was super town early but I don't see from bingle what I would call a town post. It is a bit worrying for me.
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Post Post #2980 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:47 am

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What do you need to talk to me about Taly?

I'm not personally seeing Beeboy as super town.
Freedom was one of my weeker townreads.
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Post Post #2981 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:52 am

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Dunn, how do you feel about the thread divide right now? As a slot that is probably going to be spared regardless your input is rather important to me. I feel like I should've taken your Meuh read more.
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Post Post #2982 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:54 am

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The thread has always been divided, most players have not been agreeing with my reads on Meuh or on Shirou, and now people are changing their reads on Ydrasse as well. I've gotten no support on Beeboy
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Post Post #2983 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:56 am

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In post 2982, Dunnstral wrote: The thread has always been divided, most players have not been agreeing with my reads on Meuh or on Shirou, and now people are changing their reads on Ydrasse as well. I've gotten no support on Beeboy
Can you remind me what your read is on Shirou? I assume you're wolfreading them given most of the thread seems to be townreading them.

Beeboy/Shirou have been budding pretty obviously so I didn't think that would be a wolf/wolf trend, do you disagree?
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Post Post #2984 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:02 am

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No I think Shirou is town. My memory is that most people disagreed with that.
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Post Post #2985 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:08 am

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In post 2967, Lazy Shirou wrote: I'm feeling varying degrees of an attempt to actually choose fight by Ali/RCE/Sakura and I'm here to say that's scummy
Hm? no, i've been on the Mercy camp since Implosion's EV post.
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Post Post #2986 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:09 am

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In post 2984, Dunnstral wrote: No I think Shirou is town. My memory is that most people disagreed with that.
Maybe I need to pay closer attention because I thought most people were townreading them. Can you refresh me on your beeboy wolfread?
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Post Post #2987 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:12 am

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I mean beeboy hasn't really done anything in 2 weeks. And at that point I felt like other players had something towny going for them but beeboy really didn't. I'm not seeing where everyone is townreading thm or acting like they are going to solve the game. Again, they're truly not doing anything.
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Post Post #2988 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 2984, Dunnstral wrote: No I think Shirou is town. My memory is that most people disagreed with that.
I dont see it, specially after that post.
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Post Post #2989 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:14 am

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In post 2987, Dunnstral wrote: I mean beeboy hasn't really done anything in 2 weeks. And at that point I felt like other players had something towny going for them but beeboy really didn't. I'm not seeing where everyone is townreading thm or acting like they are going to solve the game. Again, they're truly not doing anything.
This is a good point, where the heck has beeboy been.
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Post Post #2990 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:21 pm

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In post 2980, Dunnstral wrote: What do you need to talk to me about Taly?

I'm not personally seeing Beeboy as super town.
Freedom was one of my weeker townreads.
im more interested in hearing the
freedom
townread, i dont know if
beeboy
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Post Post #2991 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:34 pm

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Post Post #2992 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:07 pm

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burnout IRL is hitting, welp

maybe if i went VLA again it would ACTUALLY be a VLA
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Post Post #2993 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:37 pm

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i'd support you on beeboy, dunn
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Post Post #2994 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:39 pm

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In post 2937, Taly wrote: ...
Do you not consider Ydra a highly townread slot?

Why is Freedom less likely to be scum from this?

I didn't wagon Freedom D1 either

I can't tell if I'm misunderstanding or if this is a mistep.
i do consider ydrasse to be a highly town read slot ?

i don't think freedom is less likely to be scum

i just don't think wagoning him makes any difference in the game state than d1
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Post Post #2995 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:39 pm

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In post 2943, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2927, Dannflor wrote: Like, you can be honest with me, is your OMGUS mostly just an emotional reaction?
This is a loaded question btw.
ok sorry
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Post Post #2996 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:42 pm

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i don't think fight is a good idea

i think dunnstral is probably town

i think it's unlikely we spare scum 2/3 times after dunnstral and i think it's many worlds more likely that scum can influence the game enough to produce enough miselims to win the game

like i think fight just gives scum way more agency
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Post Post #2997 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:52 pm

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the spite in is towny
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Post Post #2998 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:57 pm

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I wanna fight so I can just kill everyone on d1 wagon
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Post Post #2999 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:58 pm

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I can’t kill everyone on d1 wagon if we spare :(

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