Toriel's Patience (end)

[Dannflor]

Spoiler:

I mean that's exactly the point I made which went over your heads.

He doesn't state a read. But if you read through you can figure out exactly what it is at all times and it isn't a lazy townread.

Why are you going through his posts looking for him to state a read when I said explicitly it's an out of game narrative . Read his posts and try to figure out his read on me

Is this about Dann? He definitely did state a read on you, I remember bc I thought he was talking about me

yeah, all right VOTE: Mandate

Merlyn this is your chance to be a big player:
Explain why your read on me has changed to the extent that you are now voting me.

Am gonna get to my Dannflor towncase but I want to follow up on this promptly

where did my read change?

So you've been scumreading me this whole game and the fact that I think my read on Dannflor is something complicated and hard to explain is what prompts you to act on that?

I've said all the thoughts that I've had about you as I've had them

I'm not voting you because you have a 'hard to explain read'. I'm voting you because when Ari pushed you about your read you got defensive really quickly and said that you could psychically read the thoughts of the person you had a townread on. And I wondered how'd you respond to a little bit more pressure

this push onto mandate isn't SvS

[Dannflor]

it's a combination of mandate talking down to merlyn + merlyn kinda avoiding directly engaging with mandate with the vote

if scum it reads more like an opportunistic push onto town than anything else

[Taly]

There's not even that much hesitation there's just a lot of people that I'm already never changing my read on to the point that the people who are just below that are causing me a lot of angst

what, never? Which ones?

I'm very very sold on Dann Implo Keyleth Brown Eyes towns

I'm also very sold on Taly Sakura

I like Meuh less than the above and then you a large amount less than Meuh (but I still like you!)

I said what I said about Aristeia because I thought it was necessary but I didn't really wanna share how I feel about everyone in the scumpool until everyone in it does more

I feel like this is such a startling amount of confidence, I'm trying to decide if it's town for that or if you're just openwolfing here.

Can you share with me why you don't want to talk about how you feel about your scumreads until they do more? It'll be hard to judge your progression if you're not sharing your earlier thoughts

This doesn't look partnered, TvS likely

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Freedom

[Sakura Hana]

Thanks for reminding me Dann.
RC and Merlyn had some argument that it's doubtful to be between scum partners, not only the way Merlyn pushed RC, but what led to ultimately RC replacing out.

[Taly]

Phrasing from

Merlyn

feels like a TMi town on

Mandate

tbh

Mandate-Merlyn

not SvS

Unless the team is just

Dann/Ydra/Freedom

then this premise seems truthful

That is the only reality where

Dann

benefits from steering me away from this world. Independent of that, this is a towny behavior to walk me through the read here.

So it's likely

Ydra/Dann

are town if

Freedom

is scum.

[Dannflor]

idk if it helps you sakura but im not really scum reading you anymore

[Taly]

How do you feel about

ali, dann/sakura

?

[Taly]

A

sakura/ali/dann/ydra

town world is a difficult gamestate to navigate through the multiple 1v1s

[Taly]

A

sakura/ali/dann/ydra

town world is a difficult gamestate to navigate through the multiple 1v1s

I need all 4 of you to comment on what you think about this

[Taly]

this game is rife with TvTs with this take holy shit

[Taly]

Dunnstral - Taly - Alisae - Ydrasse - Dannflor - Sakura

V

Freedom

beeboy - Keyleth - implosion - RCEnigma - Bingle - Lazy Shirou

I feel like I'm all over the place with reads, but this is where my thought experiment has led me

[Sakura Hana]

How do you feel about

ali, dann/sakura

?

Ali is town coz of townslip

[Sakura Hana]

A

sakura/ali/dann/ydra

town world is a difficult gamestate to navigate through the multiple 1v1s

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.

[Taly]

I'm trying to see if the world I think is likely matches my perception of the game

[Sakura Hana]

Ok, let me rephrase. I'm not sure what you're asking of us.

[Taly]

Do you think

ali/dann/ydra

are all town or could be?

[Sakura Hana]

Do you think

ali/dann/ydra

are all town or could be?

Ah that? i do townread both ali and ydra, not 100% convinced on dann yet, but i can see him being down after bringing up the RC vs Merlyn thing i forgot.

[Isis]

Votecount 2.1

() -

he/him

Dannflor

(1) - Freedom

he/him

RCEnigma

(0) -

Lazy Shirou

(0) -

He/him

Bingle

(0) -

Sakura Hana

(0) -

She/her

Freedom

(4) - RCEnigma, Keyleth, Lazy Shirou, Sakura Hana,

he/him, they/them

Keyleth

(0) -

She/her

Ydrasse

(0) -
She

Alisae

(0) -

Taly

(0) -

He/She

implosion

(2) - Alisae, Taly,

he/him

beeboy

(0) -

Not Voting

- (6) Ydrasse, implosion, Bingle, beeboy, Dunnstral, Dannflor,

(expired on 2023-12-02 03:17:50)

[Dunnstral]

What town slip are we referring to?

[implosion]

The town slip is Ali thinking there were 4 scum instead of 3.

Dunnstral - Taly - Alisae - Ydrasse - Dannflor - Sakura

V

Freedom

beeboy - Keyleth - implosion - RCEnigma - Bingle - Lazy Shirou

I feel like I'm all over the place with reads, but this is where my thought experiment has led me

I mean I feel this is not bad. I think Keyleth deserves more towncred than has been given generally (and of course I know I'm town) but I don't like, hard object to anything else here as a view of the gamestate

[RCEnigma]

A

sakura/ali/dann/ydra

town world is a difficult gamestate to navigate through the multiple 1v1s

I think this is plausible. I don’t really share the same view of Dunn as you though if that’s worth anything.

[RCEnigma]

Ok spare is just saying we can’t hit two scum, regardless if we hit scum before day 2.5 or not.

[Alisae]

maybe ydra isn't town

[Lazy Shirou]

Maybe it's like Ydrasse, Shirou, Implosion, Freedom

OH WAIT 3 player wolf team 3 mafia ok

On hindsight there's only 4 minutes from the initial post to the "oh it's only 3 scum" one

I thought there had been more time between them but this looks like it could be potentially fake to me

Not that I think it's fake, I just have doubts now while before I was considering truthful