Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[jjh927]

Your reads have kinda felt like "whatever ends the game quickest" very recently, and while that's something you have in common with Imag, you specifically aren't even going through the motions of putting any thought into actually getting the elimination right

This is a misrep. I hadn't even voted til just a few hours ago. And my posts earlier today were more around reasons I had for thinking people aren't scum.

Is it though? You kinda just settled where there was any remaining momentum

[imaginality]

Why would I rule out StD and T3 if I were scum? Aside from you (and me) I don't think anyone else was at risk of being limmed today. And the consensus wasn't on you yet at the times I said they're probably town

[T3]

Also it literally can't be Prism now if you were paying any attention

Yes, I then realized that and said "But I guess due to what's just happened it's between you and imag"

[T3]

Your reads have kinda felt like "whatever ends the game quickest" very recently, and while that's something you have in common with Imag, you specifically aren't even going through the motions of putting any thought into actually getting the elimination right

The first point is probably true. But I don't think that I haven't been putting any thought into it, I have reread most of the game, plus I did my whole scumcase thing on Ydra (which was wrong fwiw)

[T3]

Except for Prism of course.

I've been meaning to ask about this. Where does your thinking come from? IIRC you only saw about 2 or 3 real-life days of me playing scum in a Normal, and it was pretty unimpressive and over 2 years ago.

I thought your play in the Mini Normal was good and I think I also spectated a scumgame of yours a while ago.

[Prism]

And your Dragons read?

[gob]

We really don't have that much time left. I think it's time we make the final vote.

Here are the people I think could still possibly be mafia
JJH
imaginality

everyone else I am ruling out totally. T3 I am not sure on, but other people seem sure enough so its good.

Imaginality would be the wolf on the wagon from yesterday, and JJH would be the wolf off.
Usually it would be a lock that that the wolf is off wagon, however the setup really incentivizes scum flash voting like how Firebringer and camel did Day 2 or 3 whenver.

JJH his play doesn't really direct towards any winning endgame though. Like the way he played with Firebringer I don't think makes sense if you're trying to win. All of his analysis leads nowhere and he doesn't really make strides as a player. Today he is even sheeping Shirou. I basically think that is just how he plays. He hasn't really forced any agenda today, and I've been pressuring the slot since yesterday.

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Imaginality would be the wolf on wagon in this scenario. If I ignore the leaving shenanigans, I think this slot still flips scum most likely. They've been super going under the radar all game. They pushed me for a bit, but that read seems to have completely died and they're just sheeping others. However, the thing that prevents me from locking them is imaginality was first on Andres' wagon and they had reason to be on it.

[Prism]

Does the fact that Firebringer sat on imaginality for eons yesterday, including a long stretch at E-1 and at the end when we had decided to do one of Andres/imaginality, do nothing for you?

[gob]

Actually you know, I really shouldn't rule out StD. I am willing to hear about StD today.

[Prism]

(Keeping in mind that an imaginality scumflip instantly loses the game)

[gob]

Does the fact that Firebringer sat on imaginality for eons yesterday, including a long stretch at E-1 and at the end when we had decided to do one of Andres/imaginality, do nothing for you?

Explain that to me again as if I am stupid.

[Prism]

Firebringer spent a large chunk of yesterday on imaginality. This included a good stretch of time where he was at E-2 and very likely to go through, and a small section where I put imaginality at E-1.

Scum loses if any scum player gets voted out. This means Firebringer/imaginality were really playing with fire (ha) yesterday.

[gob]

Firebringer spent a large chunk of yesterday on imaginality. This included a good stretch of time where he was at E-2 and very likely to go through, and a small section where I put imaginality at E-1.

Scum loses if any scum player gets voted out. This means Firebringer/imaginality were really playing with fire (ha) yesterday.

Who unvoted or switched votes at E-1 to make it not E-1?

[Prism]

I did. Ydrasse and I are both mechanically clear now, so that isn't too helpful unfortunately.

You can see Firebringer's vote here, and Andres/I vote imaginality in the next page or two. Firebringer doesn't seem too worried about losing in his next few posts.

[Prism]

VOTE: jjh

This is E-1 and as scum you can blitz. Please either blitz or confirm you are not blitzing and I will unvote immediately.

[gob]

I did. Ydrasse and I are both mechanically clear now, so that isn't too helpful unfortunately.

You can see Firebringer's vote here, and Andres/I vote imaginality in the next page or two. Firebringer doesn't seem too worried about losing in his next few posts.

Okay, that makes sense.

It's either JJH or StD. Or T3.

I actually think I go JJH > T3 > StD here. StD has a lot more anti-spew than T3.

[Prism]

Confirm you see 4464.

[gob]

I see it.

[Prism]

UNVOTE:

Three clears now. Not bad.

[Prism]

I'm pretty sure it's just jjh but I'll still do my due diligence when I have the energy, kind of drained right now.

[gob]

I'm pretty sure it's just jjh but I'll still do my due diligence when I have the energy, kind of drained right now.

Alright. I am actually completely free for EoD tomorrow so we can run the clock down if we want.

[Prism]

I'm going to try and get to it tonight, I've just been reading in some form or another since 9a so my brain is fried.

[gob]

T3/StD
JJH

The easy answer is JJH. However the correct answer may be something else.

[Prism]

Personally I read Dragons earlier and don't think it's him but I'm eager to listen to any counterarguments, I'm not terribly confident in it.

[gob]

Personally I read Dragons earlier and don't think it's him but I'm eager to listen to any counterarguments, I'm not terribly confident in it.

Why is T3 clear? I would not do the clear checking thing with anyone else btw.