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[OutWorldER]

I can't even begin to wrap my head around that kill.

I used my doc save on you last night.

My PoE is telling me that Enchant and Annie are the other two scum.

Why on earth would you claim the doc shot if it didn't save anybody?

[OutWorldER]

Oh wait, Smiley asked for it.

I still think that's bad but uh, okay.

[Thestatusquo]

Actually now that I think about it, the WIFOM behind THS's doc shot could be why scum didn't target me.

Yea, the potential of the roleblocker being an X-shot is partly why I waited a night to use my save. But also, partly because I was frustrated about the Blackstar lim.

Am I missing something, what role blocker?

My night two track attempt didn't go through and nobody claimed responsibility, so I'm just assuming the presence of a scum roleblocker based off of that

This doesn't make sense to me, or at least your thought about it feels somewhat incomplete.

If smiley is indeed town and you are indeed town and scum has a role blocker why would they not just rb you and kill smiley?

[OutWorldER]

this is a sincerely frustrating situation since like

I think if Wiz gets jailed two nights in a row and there's still kills he's probably just town, unless Maf had the hard read he gets blocked both nights

but also like, bro, you're 4 for 4 on being outright wrong. The slot you've been tunneling all game just flipped town, and instead of taking a step back to re-evaluate you instead just commit to your secondary tunnel on me? like

Town

: SmileyDude1, usesPython, TheHoldSteady

Townlean

:

Black

,

BlackStar

, Naerys

Null

: Enchant

Scumlean

:

Thestatusquo

, OutWorldER

Scum

:

Hu Tao

, Roden

these reads aged poorly

this is an incalculably fucking correct post and you're just gonna keep truckin like nothing's changed?

[AnimatedWiz]

I had a good town read on Smiley that has been borne out by mechanical evidence, and I also was correct about Black. I’m not all wrong, and I feel a lot of my reads are understandable looking back. You voted for a lot of the same people too.

Anyway, I don’t think voting for UsesPython after BlackStar townflipped and now being vocally suspicious of THS is evidence in favor of me “truckin’ like nothing’s changed.” My reads can and do change based on new information and periodic reflection—and if my scumread on you hasn’t changed much since very early on, it’s a sign that you haven’t done anything worthy of being townread in my opinion for the majority of the game.

[AnimatedWiz]

You have been on the sidelines the entire game as the town tears itself apart, quietly joining wagons and helping push for people who have also flipped as town (556, 1384, 1655, 1894, etc.).

I don’t trust you.

[OutWorldER]

"been on the sidelines the entire game" i was very much the frontman on your wagon D1 and dropped a text wall on Roden D2, cherry-picking isn't cool bro. And you haven't exactly been a shining beacon when it comes to trying to course correct Town.

Every argument you've ever made against me here also applies to yourself, so can you please maybe reconsider for just a singular goddamn moment before you try to drive another mislim on town?

Anyway, I don’t think voting for UsesPython after BlackStar townflipped

Is this supposed to be a point in your favor that you're actively reconsidering your reads??? If you hadn't voted for the obviously guilty party in a 1f1 situation I would've found a way to put my hand through the screen and thrash you from across the internet.

[OutWorldER]

Every time I "went to the sidelines" is because anytime I tried to say anything I would've had to deal with Black, a woman who ended up scumreading every person she ever interacted with, and I never had the energy to try and deal with that. You'll notice my posting sharply declines after Black replaces in and I had my first interaction with her. For as much as I thought Roden would flip up scum this game he was unfathomably correct that she's incredibly frustrating to talk to.

[OutWorldER]

Like, if I was scum, why would I townflip the slot I’ve been trying to eliminate the entire game?

This is both of us dude, neither of us kills Roden here, so figure it out already.

[Enchant]

If i was mafia, i would remember that killing one townie per night is stupid, so i would use grenades to sweep.

Fact mafia not using grenades clears me.


... What, doesn't make sense either?

[TheHoldSteady]

Happy Thanskgiving to all Americans in this game.

[TheHoldSteady]

Oh wait, Smiley asked for it.

I still think that's bad but uh, okay.

maybe you're right

[TheHoldSteady]

Actually now that I think about it, the WIFOM behind THS's doc shot could be why scum didn't target me.

Yea, the potential of the roleblocker being an X-shot is partly why I waited a night to use my save. But also, partly because I was frustrated about the Blackstar lim.

Am I missing something, what role blocker?

My night two track attempt didn't go through and nobody claimed responsibility, so I'm just assuming the presence of a scum roleblocker based off of that

This doesn't make sense to me, or at least your thought about it feels somewhat incomplete.

If smiley is indeed town and you are indeed town and scum has a role blocker why would they not just rb you and kill smiley?

that's the mystery and i don't have the answer

[Thestatusquo]

You don't seem particularly curious about the answer.

[Naerys]

I almost fgot Enchant hinted at being protective role. Makes me wonder why they didnt get shot then.

[Enchant]

THS tried to kill TSQ, failed. Then "Oh well i am Vig i shot TSQ". It's safe claim, because it aligns with visits and considering kill fail means either roleblocked or target was protected.

This plan requires someone claiming other protect to work. Python was this someone.

[Enchant]

Python goal was not to instakill Doctor claim, it was to give THS alibi.

[Enchant]

Only theory where THS are Town are:

Mafia decided to attack THS AND when failed THEN roleblock same THS who basically selfvoted and literally WAS PROTECTED BY SOMEONE ELSE.

MAFIA ROLEBLOCKED THS? WHILE KNOWING SOMEONE ELSE DEFENDED HIM? WITHOUT EVEN DIRECTLY KNOWING ABOUT HIm BEING PR?


Bruh brah breh.

[Naerys]

Yeah, this Enchant feels town.

[Naerys]

I have to admit though that i found THS interactions with Python towny.

[TheHoldSteady]

Yeah, this Enchant feels town.

i disagree. town enchant is actually pretty sharp and repeatedly voting town isn't it

[Enchant]

Don't try to use burden of proficency on me, i am worst player on this site.

[TheHoldSteady]

Don't try to use burden of proficency on me, i am worst player on this site.

you were the only player in that one game who pieced together that FL was scum, you can't fool me by extending your jester routine where it best suits you. if you're town, use your head. if i had my way, python would've gotten limmed day 2 instead of blackstar and town wouldn't have lost two prs. that doesn't benefit me as scum.

[Enchant]

It doesh't imply that if i am town i must be correct.

[Naerys]

I jailed AnimatedWiz last night btw

Python/THS/Shea

I think that has to be the team