Mini Theme 2318: Cook's Kitchen Sink [Game Over]

[ActionDan]

Stolen

[Gamma Emerald]

Why the fuck are you fighting me on this

Why can't you just own that you did a shitty thing

I am not fighting you about me being toxic, I may have gone too far. My issue is you taking a high road that you certainly do not get to take.

[yessiree]

No I'm saying the situation you brought up is unlikely to ever happen. It exists (and to clarify the only thing worthwhile is role copping the vanillizer), but this scenario is not likely to happen if you are spared for many many many many reasons.

all i know is my role has a purpose, otherwise it wouldn't exist in this setup

if i wanted to survive i could've prepared many other more convincing claims

pedit: ok glad Roden put me outta my misery

i have lost complete confidence in this town

[Roden]

Why the fuck are you fighting me on this

Why can't you just own that you did a shitty thing

I am not fighting you about me being toxic, I may have gone too far. My issue is you taking a high road that you certainly do not get to take.

What high road

I'm not on any road

All I said waa what you did was not cool

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m fucking out of here.

[KittyTacky]

On what planet is this a town response to a vote.

idk, on planet Earth where we have claimed cop, tracker, and an invention that can all confirm my role???

i think my role will be very relevant later on, and it's not an overreaction at all to think yall are throwing here, especially Drew like i expected him of all people to understand that

Where was the normal cop claim? I must have missed it.

[KittyTacky]

Because without proving your alignment I don't think your role really makes you townie. You could be a scum role cop.

[KittyTacky]

@Gamma you missed this also!

why would the cop get a "no result" pm? if he got roleblocked his action should fail

Something's fishy.

Why do you know that exact line and why did Yessiree attempt to use it still?

I will say that with my role, I can get back a 'no result' message from the mod.

Who said I was a cop?

I assumed you are an investigative

What?

[KittyTacky]

wtf was this EoD.

[Flavor Leaf]

Roden also set up the energy on Naerys.

I also set up the energy on Yess.

Ehhh i think you went after i sent energy there, though

[Flavor Leaf]

You shouldn’t have been allowed to act at all

No that isn't how it works.

Bruh what? We’re on the same side? Procrastinating roles being able to act freely like yess claims he did only would be the case in a game where faction size isn’t known. The mutated role also adds a wrinkle of not needing to worry about knowing or not knowing the scumteam size. So I see absolutely zero reason why yess should’ve been given a “no result” vs. just not getting any form of result PM.

The wiki doesn't say that.

You need glasses, sir. Because while it doesn’t explicitly say that, it in essence says that. The entire reason Procrastinating can act at all times in some games is that in those games the scumteam size isn’t known. It’s known here, so that caveat is unnecessary.

Gamma, it literally says if they try to act they would get a no result PM

And I believe this is why scum Yes chose to say they did this

[Flavor Leaf]

Hilarious stuff

Also, my issue isn’t with the mech side of things at all, it’s the specific attempt of sending in an action knowing it was to fail.

Like i don’t get a role where it says “you cannot act unless a scum has died” and then go “oh well, i might as well send in an action anyways”

Regardless of mech, on an objective level, that doesn’t add up for me.

If so, it’s a weird play to have made, i just feel like it was said specifically because it said that in the wiki and to give more merit to the role claim on a mech level.

So i get Roden’s side of the mech argument, but i just think it also doesn’t make sense to do as town Yess.

[Flavor Leaf]

I will say something about this scenario is weird in a Roden/Yessiree S/S scenario.

I would hope that it’s not a T/T, because that’s going to be kinda rough.

Dangerous spot is if it’s Yessiree Town/Roden Scum doing this. I think it’s a solid White Knight play if Roden is scum here to a town Yess.

Night kill is going to change this game in their favor a bit if they are scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

No I'm saying the situation you brought up is unlikely to ever happen. It exists (and to clarify the only thing worthwhile is role copping the vanillizer), but this scenario is not likely to happen if you are spared for many many many many reasons.

all i know is my role has a purpose, otherwise it wouldn't exist in this setup

if i wanted to survive i could've prepared many other more convincing claims

pedit: ok glad Roden put me outta my misery

i have lost complete confidence in this town

It’s Day 2. It’s okay to misfade.

If you’re town, it’s possible the team is Roden/AD and they pulled off a successful White Knight. Doesn’t have to be, but I’m just gonna put that tinfoil here right now.

I’m not even sure if that’s what I believe the scum team to be, i just think it’s a possibility.

[Flavor Leaf]

Because our Day 1 was so short, this was a base line day, we come tomorrow with multiple night actions.

Scum didn’t get a kill last night.

We’re not in like true true danger if this flips town, i think we get a lot out of it still.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also he said his role only worked once there weren’t 3 scum alive. So why would you try or expect anything else?

what would I lose by trying it

Also he said his role only worked once there weren’t 3 scum alive. So why would you try or expect anything else?

what would I lose by trying it

But, you tried justifying your night action with what seemed to be a legit reason why you chose Kitty.

If it was for the lulz, why act like it wasn't?

because i asked the mod if i could send an action anyways and she wouldn't answer

so i sent one anyways

like what what you gain is the real weird thing here?

Just felt like an unnecessary anecdote, and probably shouldn't have claimed it at all.

I just don't get why someone would see that role knowing their role doesn't act, but still choose to act.

[Flavor Leaf]

The claim of Kitty tryharding is weird too, because Kitty only made 7 posts on Day 1.

Idk. Just weird overall. Yessiree was out of sync, if they're town, i think we get a lot of information from this, and frankly, we aren't losing too much based on them claiming against a Vanillaizer along with 3 scum alive still.


In addition, choosing to make an action while knowing they couldn't, also makes it so people could get false Motion Detection and such actions, which is kind of annoying, and maybe that's why it's there specifically, and it's like targeting an Ascetic.

My main thing in thinking is that a ScumYess, thinking I really targeted them and got a positive action tried to soft defend themselves with the claim to warrant having an action used.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Yess is scum, I don't think it's Roden. I'm getting thoughts out in the case I die tonight.

[Flavor Leaf]

Getting some paranoia of Kitty/Looker again, and like Kitty slipped away possibly.

Alright. i dont think i have anything else to say, so i guess see you tomorrow hopefully.


Town

Naerys
Celebloki
Elements

Gamma

ActionDan
Drew
Vanders
Kitty

Roden

Looker

Pink is light light scum read, but I think if it's not exactly Roden/Yessiree/Looker, then scum exist in Pink tier. I have reasons to town read everyone in that Pink tier, but I don't think they're strong enough where they couldn't be scum pulling the wool. Gamma is higher up for reasons. I could kinda see a reasoning for my top tier as scum, but idk, i just really feel good about the 3 of them.

[ActionDan]

Celebloki

I very much am curious why you think this. I keep thinking regardless of yessiree's color this has a great chance to be scum.

[Elements]

Those last 10 pages were certainly something I read

[KittyTacky]

The claim of Kitty tryharding is weird too, because Kitty only made 7 posts on Day 1.

Idk. Just weird overall. Yessiree was out of sync, if they're town, i think we get a lot of information from this, and frankly, we aren't losing too much based on them claiming against a Vanillaizer along with 3 scum alive still.


In addition, choosing to make an action while knowing they couldn't, also makes it so people could get false Motion Detection and such actions, which is kind of annoying, and maybe that's why it's there specifically, and it's like targeting an Ascetic.

My main thing in thinking is that a ScumYess, thinking I really targeted them and got a positive action tried to soft defend themselves with the claim to warrant having an action used.

To be fair I did put more effort than I usually would d1.

[KittyTacky]

I still don't really get the Looker case.

[KittyTacky]

*tumbleweed rolls past*

[KittyTacky]

*crickets start to chirp*

(gn all)