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[Enchant]

Want to inply they attacked Python N2?

[OutWorldER]

????

The only thing we know about what happened on N2 is that Python got jailed, and Black, BlackStar, and Smiley all visited them. We can deduce that Python was making

a

kill because of Smiley's JK, but there's no way for you to know Python's target without being in the scum PT.

[SmileyDude1]

Want to inply they attacked Python N2?

Night 2 kill likely was done by Python who got blocked by me. How do you know who they targeted?

[Enchant]

Oh i wonder WHO they tried to kill.

While not roleblocking watcher. While roleblocking some random THS.

[Enchant]

Literally zero IQ

[SmileyDude1]

Oh i wonder WHO they tried to kill.

While not roleblocking watcher. While roleblocking some random THS.

Not sure I fully buy this as an excuse, like Roden kill last night doesn't really make sense either but that's what happened. What makes you so sure scum took the Black kill in that case?

[Dannflor]

VC

[Dannflor]

TheHoldSteady was a

Town JOAT (One-shot Doctor, One-shot Tracker, One-shot Vigilante)

.

Night 5 starts now and ends in (expired on 2023-11-26 20:32:48)

[Dannflor]

Naerys was killed in the night. She was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Day 6 begins now and ends in (expired on 2023-12-04 00:29:00).

[Dannflor]

VC 6.0

Mandus

Not Voting [5]:

SmileyDude1, Thestatusquo, OutWorldER, Enchant, AnimatedWiz

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate. Day 6 ends in (expired on 2023-12-04 00:29:00).

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[SmileyDude1]

I guess scum truly wish for me to suffer this game huh?

[Enchant]

You ceased to be danger long ago i guess.

[SmileyDude1]

Super-late so i'm going to call it after this post.

I jailed TheStatusQuo last night.

Want to say that we shouldn't rush into any unwise decisions today. Enchant may well have slipped during yesterday's twilight, but in the event they didn't I'd rather not lose via turbo-limming them without discussing it first.

I'll probably be back on tomorrow after I get off of work. Goodnight

[Enchant]

Enchant may well have slipped during yesterday's twilight

I had this opinion like from Python VS Blackjack 1vs1, but for some reason i didn't act on it (as again mechanically i saw more sense in mafia attacking defenseless watcher than claimed BP, so naturally it makes more sense that mafia was jailed directly)

I had same opinion expressed in "Big mech Post" which

you all obviously read if you voted out

and you can see it in "Mafia kills".

And when i mention it in twilight suddenly it turns in slip. That's not gonna work out. You can cease.

[AnimatedWiz]

This is… so horribly confusing. The only person here I feel I can actually trust at this point is Smiley, but even then the nagging feeling about a Jailkeeper being kept alive makes me unwilling to say it for sure.

Is there some world where Smiley is lying? Have we just all assumed he’s telling the truth when there’s a possibility of him just lying? I mean, he could have lied about jailing Python so we would eventually eliminate them and therefore it would “confirm” him, right?

Or is this just another WIFOM play? These kills are so weird—I don’t understand them mechanically.

[Enchant]

This requires:
Smiley having mafia PR and visiting teammate N2 to show Visit which can be seen by Watcher.
Having another mafia PR (roleblocker or something) to block THS action N2.
No Killing Twice.

[OutWorldER]

This is… so horribly confusing. The only person here I feel I can actually trust at this point is Smiley, but even then the nagging feeling about a Jailkeeper being kept alive makes me unwilling to say it for sure.

Is there some world where Smiley is lying? Have we just all assumed he’s telling the truth when there’s a possibility of him just lying? I mean, he could have lied about jailing Python so we would eventually eliminate them and therefore it would “confirm” him, right?

Or is this just another WIFOM play? These kills are so weird—I don’t understand them mechanically.

Bro you're just trying to blow smoke at this point, there's zero way this take is genuine. Town does not come into Elo trying to discredit the practically confirmed JK at this point, after limming a Maf off the back of his jailkeep. A toddler could figure out that Smiley being scum here is ludicrous.

[OutWorldER]

I don't know why I tried to convince myself you were town yesterday and let you quickhammer THS, I should've just been sheeping Black. There's no way you're not scum here.

[Enchant]

Anything possible really.

[Enchant]

Leaving smiley alive in hopes that town votes here is like, plan of champions. Or fools.

[AnimatedWiz]

Bro you're just trying to blow smoke at this point, there's zero way this take is genuine. Town does not come into Elo trying to discredit the practically confirmed JK at this point, after limming a Maf off the back of his jailkeep. A toddler could figure out that Smiley being scum here is ludicrous.

I don’t think considering every possible take is a bad idea when we’re at LimLo—making sure that my one townread is mechanically and socially very trustable is the best protection considering how little actually information we have about everyone else here.

Plus, if do all trust Smiley’s not lying, then the fact that I was jailed twice in a row and it never stopped a nightkill is decent mechanical evidence in my favor—not confirming, but it’s more than most of the rest of you can say.

You have literally no mechanical clearance—the only claimed night action on you is a n2 track by THS, which had no result. Either you are an unclaimed Ascetic/Commuter, or there’s an unclaimed Roleblocker who targeted you that night. That’s super suspicious—especially now that THS townflipped so we know he wasn’t lying.

[AnimatedWiz]

I feel like a Rolestopper would probably have prevented another night action by now if we had one, so I’m leaning towards the unclaimed Commuter/Ascetic idea far more—an idea which is really suspicious because a) both those roles are kind of odd for a townie in this set-up, and b) lying about not having either role (especially when it would help explain another’s night action) doesn’t help the town.

[AnimatedWiz]

Finally, what use is there in sheeping Black when her last posts are just her saying her reads are in flux because she doesn’t have any real information?

I'm not confident in anything atm

I think I need to see some flips to figure out what's going on here

VOTE: BlackStar

Feel free to hammer

I keep talking myself into lots of different scenarios here and I just won't be sure about any of them until I see some alignments

I can see sheeping THS’s final read on me, but not hers—not like this.

[Enchant]

Ascetic... Eh.

then ascetic perform kills, because of immunity to all actions. And jailkeeper wouldn't stop them. Which makes out situation more strange.

[Enchant]

Idk if commuter can kill and commute. If so, reasoning same.