Mini Theme 2318: Cook's Kitchen Sink [Game Over]

[Elements]

Bloop

[Flavor Leaf]

what are your thoughts on Looker, Drew, and Vander?

[Flavor Leaf]

and what does Bloodhound do?

[Elements]

and what does Bloodhound do?

town/not town

[Flavor Leaf]

*Whemestar - Vanilla
Roden - Vanilla, got Vulnerable N1 all actions succeed
Celebloki - Vanilla, go frail Night 2 will die on targeting
Naerys - Vanilla
KittyTacky - Vanilla
Gamma Emerald - Vanilla
ActionDan - Vanilla Neighbor

Doctor Drew - 1-shot Success Disloyal Checker
Flavor Leaf - JOAT, Reporter shot on Naerys N1 nothing, Vanillaized Night 2
Elements - Novice Inventor, Vanillaized Night 1
Looker - ??????
Vanderscamp - ???? Neighbor

*Yessiree - Alien Neighbor Rolecop

[Elements]

Looker

am happy to scum bin
is playing different to the games I've played with scum!looker before but they are a few years old now

Drew

was scum leaning before the claim
I think the claim is probably town

Vander

no thoughts, head empty

[Flavor Leaf]

what about ActionDan/Naerys?

[Elements]

Naerys town
Dan can go in the scum pile

[Roden]

I'm having trouble seeing scum's endgame plan here

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm having trouble seeing scum's endgame plan here

they dont have one, they're done for, and hoping they can get lucky and have a single deepwolf snake by to the end.

it's all they have the option for.

[Flavor Leaf]

i *think* I have the solve, but I'm waiting for Looker and Vanders to finish mass claim.

[Doctor Drew]

I hope Roden really is telling the truth, because in hindsight I wish I held onto my 'guilty' a bit longer.

[Celebloki]

I have a longshot conspiracy theory that Elements may be the deep wolf of the group. Called out being Vanillaized early but is actually the Alien Vanillaizer. Had to put on my tin foil hat for that one.

So you're saying vanillaizer holstered, or risked getting a second vanillaise claimed and be put in an an awkward situation? Yeah this is very much a crackpot theory.

It's 100% crackpot, that's why they are at the end of the list. I assume everyone before it are far more likely.

[Flavor Leaf]

Really hope Looker and Vander don’t flake.

[Flavor Leaf]

Right now, I think it’s DrewScum, unfortunately.

I think their real role is something like 1-shot Success Complex Vanillaizer, if that, and they set this vulnerable gambit on Roden so they could push through a guilty and be cleared the next day.

My main reason for thinking Drew is scum here is because Drew was crumbing a bit too hard yesterday, and remember, I had claimed Reporter, not JOAT (it’s possible scum Role Copped me Night 1, of course), but in that regard, Drew had been claiming a way to get an Inno + a possibility of No Result.

Why was I Vanillaized over Drew with those crumbs by Drew?

I also think it’s possible Drew claimed stuff in case of me checking him, and he had a reason to have made an action, and thus, I’m Vanillaized and would no longer be able to make an action.

[Flavor Leaf]

The way that Drew defended Yessiree and also the way that Drew tried to start a wagon on me also feels incredibly scum indicative.

Also, as a 1-shot Success Disloyal Checker, why would you target your main scum read over continuously getting multiple inno’s lined up.

I think Roden check doesn’t make sense from a town POV. That being said, I think this reason is one of the weaker ones, and there are reasonings you can make of why townies would.

But the previous reasons are far stronger.

[Flavor Leaf]

And Yessiree calling out Drew’s voting on Yess as ‘throwing’ feels like scum mad at their partner.

And I can see why Drew felt the need to bus yesterday. It wasn’t without a few chances to try and move the wagon onto a Roden, onto a Naerys.

Naerys thought one of Roden or Drew was scum.
Celebloki also thought one of Roden or Drew was scum. Naerys was a wagon possibility, Celebloki was gifted frail.

Setups for when Roden flips town.

I also specifically had the feeling of someone moving off of Kitty after Kitty claimed VT was scum, and Drew is the one that was front and center in that.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m getting antsy waiting for Looker and Vanders, so if we just want the guilty, so can throw it out, or I’ll wait.

[ActionDan]

Wait at least until prod we have time. Drew theory is noted, but I really can't imagine it. It would be impressive if Drew is scum to come up with this plan, essentially putting it into action N1.

[Roden]

I'm fine with waiting

[Doctor Drew]

The way that Drew defended Yessiree and also the way that Drew tried to start a wagon on me also feels incredibly scum indicative.

Also, as a 1-shot Success Disloyal Checker, why would you target your main scum read over continuously getting multiple inno’s lined up.

I think Roden check doesn’t make sense from a town POV. That being said, I think this reason is one of the weaker ones, and there are reasonings you can make of why townies would.

But the previous reasons are far stronger.

You keep saying that I tried to start a wagon on you while I kept calling you town.

And I checked Gamma because of their position on the D1 Mislim, and I checked Roden because I figured they would be a major point of contention after how Yess's Lim went down.

[Cook]

Going to prod Looker and Vanderscamp.

[Flavor Leaf]

The way that Drew defended Yessiree and also the way that Drew tried to start a wagon on me also feels incredibly scum indicative.

Also, as a 1-shot Success Disloyal Checker, why would you target your main scum read over continuously getting multiple inno’s lined up.

I think Roden check doesn’t make sense from a town POV. That being said, I think this reason is one of the weaker ones, and there are reasonings you can make of why townies would.

But the previous reasons are far stronger.

You keep saying that I tried to start a wagon on you while I kept calling you town.

And I checked Gamma because of their position on the D1 Mislim, and I checked Roden because I figured they would be a major point of contention after how Yess's Lim went down.

That’s fair.

It just feels like Drew Style gambit.

Maybe it is just Looker, if not you.

I don’t think it’s Roden…? But they stay in the POE because of it.

We are a low town power game for sure.

[Roden]

I had a similar worry about Drew last night as well, everything lines up in a way that feels diabolical if he's scum since he would've played it so well. But Yess had basically no help, it seems like he came up with the fake claim on his own and didn't get any feedback on how much to commit to the claim. I think Drew would've told him to say less, but the details about sending an action and not getting a response from the mod when asking a question feel like improv in hindsight. And if the plan was to bus Yess, I think the scum team would suggest a better fake claim in order to draw out counter claims from strong town PRs.

Though...now that we know that the factional kill is 1-shot, I wonder why Yess didn't just claim Jailkeeper? Scum would know the chances of one existing were low and we already thought someone was blocking the kill. And if one did exist, exposing them would've been important for scum anyway.

[Flavor Leaf]

Look back at Drew’s Day 2. He was helping Yessiree. He was even saying that the town block should be Gamma/Yessiree/Drew at one point before backing off of it to just Gamma/Drew.

Like I trust Drew on tone, so maybe that’s something. I just feel there’s a lot of reasons that line up to them being scum.

But I’ve been in that scenario with Town Drew before, so maybe