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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:53 pm

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Lost faith in a playerlist that’s caught 2 scum by end of Day 3 not a good look
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:00 pm

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In post 1074, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1071, Looker wrote:
In post 1064, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1060, Looker wrote: I literally did nothing. 1-shot Bus Driver, swapped Celebloki and Naerys but nobody died. There's a difference between vanillaize and expended, but I wasn't vanilla'd, just used my shot.
You did this on Night 2?

Why did you choose to hold Night 1?
No, this was on night 1. No offense, but when I saw how quickly people were hopping wagons and how no one questioned your read on me, I lost faith in the player list and figured I should shoot while I had the chance. It was half-ass, but Vande mentioned he thought Naerys was town and someone else corroborated so I figured it was as good a shot as any. And no one answered any of the questions I had regarding the wagons they were on, so I just figured fuck it.
I claimed I targeted Naerys Night 1 on Day 2.

This means I targeted Celebloki with my Reporter Action, not Naerys unless Looker is scum.
I feel like this is really sus play by Looker actually. Now the actual clear has the Frail modifier, and a part of me is screaming that Looker wanted things to go this way.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:05 pm

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Yeah, actions are too weird this game.

Roden happening to have Vulnerable with Doctor Drew’s claim

And now this.

The final scum is in that group somewhere
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:50 pm

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In post 1074, Flavor Leaf wrote:I claimed I targeted Naerys Night 1 on Day 2.

This means I targeted Celebloki with my Reporter Action, not Naerys unless Looker is scum.
I don't see how that changes anything. Still a town win.
In post 1075, Flavor Leaf wrote: Lost faith in a playerlist that’s caught 2 scum by end of Day 3 not a good look
How would Day 3 mech solves affect Day 1
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:51 pm

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It’s an in hindsight type of thing, that mentality not aging well for ya
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:55 pm

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Why wait until now to tell us you Bussed two people on N1 when you're only a 1-shot?
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:14 am

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In post 1080, Roden wrote: Why wait until now to tell us you Bussed two people on N1 when you're only a 1-shot?
Bus driver targets 2 players.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:58 am

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As far as I'm concerned Naerys is still town on play even if looker is town. Which is still possible. Elements being scum opens that up a bit

Now I would have claimed this on D2. Town being under the impression of a false clear would not sit right with me
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:30 am

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There are three mysteries in terms of scum night actions I am trying to piece together

1) Why did elements claim as she did?
2) Why was vulnerable used before frail?
3) Why is there no NK yet?

I only have a guess to #1

Prediction:

Elements flips 1-shot vanillizer. Clearly claiming vanilized is a play for town cred. To give this a maximum chance of success, elements will not action N1 (supported by choice of fake claim with novice modifier). If a buddy was more than a 1-shot vanillaizer I'd imagine they'd action N1 and not waste elements night action as well (which we know they have). A buddy having a 1-shot vanillaizer means if they ever flip elements is outed. Thus it's elements that has the role. And believe it's one shot or it would be used on town n1 and not be claimed.

2) factional Tech is probably on a cycle. Saving frail until you want to know who to kill via dayplay, rolecop, etc makes sense. Expect to see it again later. That said Why vulnerable on roden n1, was there really nothing better

3) I have no clue here. Is the factional power a either or? Meaning can either kill or tech but not both?
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:34 am

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Addendum:

Why frail on celebloki? Why not anyone of FL Gamma (who i absolutely thought was crumbing rb/jk day 2) or Drew who hard crumbled clear on gamma
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:04 am

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In post 1080, Roden wrote: Why wait until now to tell us you Bussed two people on N1 when you're only a 1-shot?
I don't understand. What would have been the benefit?
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:23 am

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In post 1085, Looker wrote:
In post 1080, Roden wrote: Why wait until now to tell us you Bussed two people on N1 when you're only a 1-shot?
I don't understand. What would have been the benefit?
Because there were actions made and claimed on targets you switched
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:52 am

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Are we still waiting on Vander?
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:55 am

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yep.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:55 am

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I still think Elements->Looker probs the right path to confirm if Looker telling the truth.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:06 am

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In post 1036, Flavor Leaf wrote: My guilty is on Elements. I’m just a Reporter, targeted them last night, and they used an action.
It's not a guitly
I'm a Night-1 Informed Novice JOAT
My abilitites are the abilities I claimed as my inventions
I was informed night 1 that the scum team have a vannilaiser which is why I claimed vannaillaised
I rolestopped Naerys last night
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:16 am

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In post 1090, Elements wrote:
In post 1036, Flavor Leaf wrote: My guilty is on Elements. I’m just a Reporter, targeted them last night, and they used an action.
It's not a guitly
I'm a Night-1 Informed Novice JOAT
My abilitites are the abilities I claimed as my inventions
I was informed night 1 that the scum team have a vannilaiser which is why I claimed vannaillaised
I rolestopped Naerys last night
Funny how that seems eerily similar to my role in Mafia had a Cop lol
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:18 am

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In post 1091, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1090, Elements wrote:
In post 1036, Flavor Leaf wrote: My guilty is on Elements. I’m just a Reporter, targeted them last night, and they used an action.
It's not a guitly
I'm a Night-1 Informed Novice JOAT
My abilitites are the abilities I claimed as my inventions
I was informed night 1 that the scum team have a vannilaiser which is why I claimed vannaillaised
I rolestopped Naerys last night
Funny how that seems eerily similar to my role in Mafia had a Cop lol
what was your role in that?
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:22 am

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In post 1092, Elements wrote:
In post 1091, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1090, Elements wrote:
In post 1036, Flavor Leaf wrote: My guilty is on Elements. I’m just a Reporter, targeted them last night, and they used an action.
It's not a guitly
I'm a Night-1 Informed Novice JOAT
My abilitites are the abilities I claimed as my inventions
I was informed night 1 that the scum team have a vannilaiser which is why I claimed vannaillaised
I rolestopped Naerys last night
Funny how that seems eerily similar to my role in Mafia had a Cop lol
what was your role in that?
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:24 am

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In post 1093, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1092, Elements wrote:
In post 1091, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1090, Elements wrote:
In post 1036, Flavor Leaf wrote: My guilty is on Elements. I’m just a Reporter, targeted them last night, and they used an action.
It's not a guitly
I'm a Night-1 Informed Novice JOAT
My abilitites are the abilities I claimed as my inventions
I was informed night 1 that the scum team have a vannilaiser which is why I claimed vannaillaised
I rolestopped Naerys last night
Funny how that seems eerily similar to my role in Mafia had a Cop lol
what was your role in that?
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But I just chuckled seeing it, was kinda thinking Flavor would notice it as well.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:25 am

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In post 1090, Elements wrote:
In post 1036, Flavor Leaf wrote: My guilty is on Elements. I’m just a Reporter, targeted them last night, and they used an action.
It's not a guitly
I'm a Night-1 Informed Novice JOAT
My abilitites are the abilities I claimed as my inventions
I was informed night 1 that the scum team have a vannilaiser which is why I claimed vannaillaised
I rolestopped Naerys last night
Interesting.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:25 am

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I’m leaning it as a lie.

Why would Elements claim to be Vanillaised as town informed of scum having vanillaizer? Scum would have known they didn’t Vanillaize elements.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:26 am

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Pretty solid counter play, though, if scum.

I think it’s a really rough situation if elements is town, though.

I’m still thinking it’s just scum counterplay.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:27 am

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In post 1096, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m leaning it as a lie.

Why would Elements claim to be Vanillaised as town informed of scum having vanillaizer? Scum would have known they didn’t Vanillaize elements.
Maybe Mafia has a cop is just in my head.

But could this be a traitor situation?
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:32 am

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In post 1096, Flavor Leaf wrote: Why would Elements claim to be Vanillaised as town informed of scum having vanillaizer? Scum would have known they didn’t Vanillaize elements.
My thinking was, however misguided it may have been, was that scum would either be worrying about a town vannilaiser or think that I was lying. Either way, they're less likely to try and vanillaise me.
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