What do you think of Kittie's vote for Enchant?In post 387, Naerys wrote:Enchant likes to troll at D1, so its hard to read them.In post 319, Testarossa wrote:My problem is I have trouble with thinking your tunnel on Black feels like Arko's tunnel on her for example. Your play comes off as more static here, kind of like scum that doesn't know how to find a better target and how to engage with it. While I am no fan of the beetlejuicing argument, it's difficult to ignore how you were more present the very moment the wagon on you was formed. Can you explain why you think Black comes across as more opportunistic and with no intention of scumhunting here?In post 245, Naerys wrote: I am trying to figure out people. My D1 is usually bit weaker, but it gets better.
I am still on Black. I dont like her positioning upon me. She calls it "putting a pressure on me" but to me it feels like pure opportunism.
Also what's your take on Arko, Enchant slot and Thom?
Arko is thoughtful, feels like town.
I dont like Thom´s jumping on Enchant so null tier for now.
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Eh. Throw someone else under bus to save self?
I guess i can try that.
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Looked back at the Enchant votes to see if there may have been any bussing on this wagon.
I feel pretty good that this vote seemed genuine - I'm townreading Hu Tao anyway, and being quick onto the Enchant wagon makes me feel better about them than I already did.In post 337, Hu Tao wrote:
Oh LOL then I'm definitely fine voting EnchantIn post 335, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Enchant replaced klick FYIIn post 332, Hu Tao wrote: Kittiesecret - could be scum
Arko - leaning town, like the reads posts
Naerys - could be scum
Gamma Emerald - null maybe leaning town. Idk
Testarossa - maybe scum?
Black - prob town
Thomith - null
Enchant - no clue how to read
Klick - maybe scum, never explained scumread on me
Rough idea of how I'm feeling at the moment
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There's a world I guess where this is scum sheeping things that people have already said, but at the same time, newer players can also do the same thing so this is NAI at best I feel like. I'm willing to POE Kittie for this, I think at least for today.In post 381, Kittiesecret wrote: UNVOTE:In post 333, Black wrote: You should both consider that you may be voting for limbait and join me on the Enchant wagon. I don't think I would be opposed going Testa or Thomith but I think their activity level and the solving nature of their posts could be useful even if they're scum here. As of right now those are the only 3 players I'd be willing to fade
I could get on board with this if only get reduce the chaotic energy to make the game more readable.
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Not much to this vote, again there's the WIFOM of does Mafia hammer their partner on Day 1, especially when the game was relatively split at this point, and wagons kept trading throughout the day. I feel like I'm also willing to POE Gamma here I think, again at least for now.
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I mean it's possible, but it didn't look like anyone else that voted Enchant wasnt doing it genuinely, at least to me.In post 414, Naerys wrote: Hmm the question is would be scum so bold as to bus their partner at d1?
The only vote that's hard to read is Gamma's, but tbh I'm inclined to believe Gamma is probably town here.
As Gamma said I'm not sure why you claimed, but that's fine I guess.
I'm going to need to reread everyone that wasnt on the Enchant wagon at some point soon, but right now I think I'm leaning between Arko/Testa as the last scum.thomith could be a court jester
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I am fishing.In post 416, Gamma Emerald wrote: Uhhh what? No one said to massclaim-
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I think I'd still like you to answer this please Naerys.In post 400, Thomith wrote:
What do you think of Kittie's vote for Enchant?In post 387, Naerys wrote:
Enchant likes to troll at D1, so its hard to read them.In post 319, Testarossa wrote:
My problem is I have trouble with thinking your tunnel on Black feels like Arko's tunnel on her for example. Your play comes off as more static here, kind of like scum that doesn't know how to find a better target and how to engage with it. While I am no fan of the beetlejuicing argument, it's difficult to ignore how you were more present the very moment the wagon on you was formed. Can you explain why you think Black comes across as more opportunistic and with no intention of scumhunting here?In post 245, Naerys wrote: I am trying to figure out people. My D1 is usually bit weaker, but it gets better.
I am still on Black. I dont like her positioning upon me. She calls it "putting a pressure on me" but to me it feels like pure opportunism.
Also what's your take on Arko, Enchant slot and Thom?
Arko is thoughtful, feels like town.
I dont like Thom´s jumping on Enchant so null tier for now.thomith could be a court jester
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I understand Naerys claiming, it's not like she would have ended up as nk here anyway.
If she is lying she will get resolved in the massclaim later when there should be too many prs. However with Enchant's flip I think she is just town. Klick's weird townread on her on D1 seems to me like a purposeful red hering.-
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Pretty often a D1 scum flip implies a bus imo, people can't resist for some reason. I think it's noteworthy that the only other promising D1 wagons on Black and Naerys (if we assume Naerys is town) never got more momentum and kind of stalled and died down while the wagon on Enchant happened pretty fast and went almost immediately through. Although that assumption might be a bit flawed with Enchant acting how they acted.
Need to reread stuff later, so on first sight I think Hu Tao is just town and Klick's weird push was to shade someone widely townread.
Kind of want to think Kittie wouldn't bus her partner as newbie on D1, however she was kind of talked into it by Black, when Black was rallying people up. Leaning town atm though, her vote just didn't felt like a bus.
Thom broke the tie between Enchant/Kittie. To be fair Kittie wasn't getting any traction either and Gamma already has mentioned before she would leave for Klick/Enchant. Would be the best bus on the wagon by timing, don't remember how he has been about Enchant slot before and why he joined.
Gamma could fit by how how non-chalant she did it, thought she was town though.
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It's weird though how Klick was all fine with the Black wagon, but explicitly said he didn't want to give it further momentum. Either he just wanted to avoid being the E-1 vote or his partner was already there and they didn't want to be both on a potential lim.
Klick was townreading him and Arko always had that slot in their nullreads, but always so phrased like "could be scum, but also town". Although he had Klick as second lowest read, but still as neutral. By reads it could fit well for keeping a partner warm. I still kind of think that whole meta case on Black was too over the top for scum though.
Leaving Naerys out, because of what I said before.
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