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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:38 am

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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:41 am

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Hey Titus, the university I work at has a law school, and I was attending an event over there today, but I missed the Q&A (had to go back to work). But you might know the answer. If a declarant has a valid reason for their absence (they're very ill, they're in danger, etc), would that grant a hearsay exception? Are there cases where it's kind of blurry?

If this is a very stupid question (like if it's unethical to give law advice over the internet) feel free to just ignore me though.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:41 am

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oh whoops it can wait
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:42 am

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In post 1202, Afrayed Knott wrote: just not liking what I saw from T 3, and to be frank an outside edge to Sky...
You mean you like Skygazer's case? Why?
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:43 am

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In general need more info but it can.@Skygazer
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:45 am

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In post 1196, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1194, T3 wrote:
In post 1192, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1184, T3 wrote: VOTE: Skygazer
are you scumreading me now? your reasoning yesterday was just survivalism, so is that still the case? or did something change?
Your case yesterday was incredibly bad faith and same today
what is bad faith about it
Let me put it this way: I was 'salty' but you haven't differentiated my tone between "annoyed town" and "annoyed town." I was pretty annoyed that my strongest townread had just claimed scum and I dislike how you're construing my annoyance to mean that I'm scum, when there is an alternative, equally likely explanation.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:45 am

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@Titus: cool ty. don't mean to derail the game but the question was bugging me
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:48 am

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Skygazer pm me.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:51 am

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In post 1239, OutWorldER wrote: T3 was on the chopping block and both him and Black tried to setup a counter-wagon on Titus. Don't see a reason for Black to get off T3 if he's a mislim, and the sudden shift in reads suggest she was getting ready to bus but switched to try and counter momentum on the T3 wagon. Unless she was just trying to get Titus speed-limmed so she didn't have to deal with the NKA of night-killing her? "I'll deathtunnel Titus if T3 flips Town" feels like scum setting up a chain mislim. But why try to get Titus limmed off T3's case if you were setting up to lim Titus tommorow off a T3 mislim? Occam's Razor probably just says T3 is scum here.
I was sort of on the chopping block but was the momentum not on Skygazer at that point??? If the whole Titus push hadn't happened then if I'm scum we both could have just voted Skygazer and the day would have fizzled out there in all likelihood. As I said before, your theory about pushing the momentum off me on works when the team is me/Black/Skygazer.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:52 am

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In post 1253, T3 wrote:
In post 1202, Afrayed Knott wrote: just not liking what I saw from T 3, and to be frank an outside edge to Sky...
You mean you like Skygazer's case? Why?
you are just not vibing mate. Where have you seriously challenged anyone? Your posts are generally reactive and somewhat off key.. For example your response to Black's self hammer. Where do you you fit in limming scum? Honestly you really need to convince me you are actually huntingother than masquerading as town
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:52 am

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In post 1226, camelCasedSnivy wrote: actually i want to try voting here for today

VOTE: Bellaphant
I reread her ISO during the night but she's still sitting at dead null for me.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:53 am

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T3, why can't you be scum with K? Is K town?

Am I town?
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:54 am

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In post 1257, Titus wrote: Skygazer pm me.
nah nvm it's not that important and i don't think it would help anything after second thoughts

ty though
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:54 am

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In post 1259, Afrayed Knott wrote:
In post 1253, T3 wrote:
In post 1202, Afrayed Knott wrote: just not liking what I saw from T 3, and to be frank an outside edge to Sky...
You mean you like Skygazer's case? Why?
Where have you seriously challenged anyone?
Did I not, like, challenge Titus? And then Skygazer? It's a bit difficult to not be 'reactive' when my entire presence in the game has centered around me being the main wagon.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:55 am

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In post 1263, T3 wrote:
In post 1259, Afrayed Knott wrote:
In post 1253, T3 wrote:
In post 1202, Afrayed Knott wrote: just not liking what I saw from T 3, and to be frank an outside edge to Sky...
You mean you like Skygazer's case? Why?
Where have you seriously challenged anyone?
Did I not, like, challenge Titus? And then Skygazer? It's a bit difficult to not be 'reactive' when my entire presence in the game has centered around me being the main wagon.
woo is me.. then give us something that counts
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:56 am

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In post 1226, camelCasedSnivy wrote: actually i want to try voting here for today

VOTE: Bellaphant
camel's probably town, he has an 'anxiety' to use his vote which comes from town more often than not. Compared to Secrets of the Anukat Topaz this is like night and day.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:57 am

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In post 1255, T3 wrote:
In post 1196, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1194, T3 wrote:
In post 1192, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1184, T3 wrote: VOTE: Skygazer
are you scumreading me now? your reasoning yesterday was just survivalism, so is that still the case? or did something change?
Your case yesterday was incredibly bad faith and same today
what is bad faith about it
Let me put it this way: I was 'salty' but you haven't differentiated my tone between "annoyed town" and "annoyed town." I was pretty annoyed that my strongest townread had just claimed scum and I dislike how you're construing my annoyance to mean that I'm scum, when there is an alternative, equally likely explanation.
i mean the severity of the reaction plays into it for me too. i feel like when i'm wrong i just go "oh whoops" and move on quickly because a W is a W. i think your reaction seems more appropriate as a "my team is in a really bad spot" reaction over a "i misread someone." i understand that town can get annoyed, but your annoyance here does not look town.

i also think that you think that i'm just the easiest counterwagon to push through, which is why you tossed out a blanket statement like "bad faith" rather than any actual points. you were open about the fact that you weren't scumreading me yesterday, and today the only thing tangible you've had against me was that you don't like my arguments against you because you think i should be reading your annoyance differently. so you're giving not-solving/defeated-scum vibes to me.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:57 am

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In post 1230, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 1229, Afrayed Knott wrote:
In post 1226, camelCasedSnivy wrote: actually i want to try voting here for today

VOTE: Bellaphant
why?
black flip

i didn't iso black but i think i remember bellaphant like not deciding their read on black

which would've been like normal but the e-1 looks so bad to me
I'd expect a more thought-out and expansive case from scum!camel.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:58 am

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In post 1235, camelCasedSnivy wrote: {dannflor (based off a loose skim of blacks iso), T3}
{knott (also based off of that)}
{everyone else}
{skygazer}
{bellaphant}
{me}

anyway i gotta rake the leaves from my backyard before it inevitably snows kbye
pretty intrigued by this reads list
why is t3 at the top?
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:58 am

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based on what CCS has said, I think it's just upside-down lol
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:59 am

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ah wait but ccs is voting bellaphant nvm
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:00 pm

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In post 972, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i trust T3 actually

VOTE: Skygazer
In post 1226, camelCasedSnivy wrote: actually i want to try voting here for today

VOTE: Bellaphant
In post 1230, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 1229, Afrayed Knott wrote:
In post 1226, camelCasedSnivy wrote: actually i want to try voting here for today

VOTE: Bellaphant
why?
black flip

i didn't iso black but i think i remember bellaphant like not deciding their read on black

which would've been like normal but the e-1 looks so bad to me
Don't think so
p-edit yeah
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:00 pm

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VOTE: Sky

I don't know.. just something is pinging me
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:01 pm

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I see another bone
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:01 pm

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i thought it was flipped bc i think T3 is obvscum, and cCS said something about his read flipping on me

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