Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Naerys]

The pink balloon popped?

[Flavor Leaf]

Gob might be scum here.

Am I or not? Seems you want to be right either way here.

I like being right, sure, but i care much more about getting scum dead.

I’ll take the false bravado

VOTE: Gob

Let’s 1v1. I think you’re scum here.

held up well

[AnimatedWiz]

Spoiler:

Too ready to overexplain town!gob

Care to share your own thoughts on gob, then?

I would think a lack of detail more suspicious than an overabundance of it personally, and you haven’t stated much on the matter.

I don't get scumpings from him so I'm not too focused on what he's posting. I've noticed he seems to like to do shit just to do it, even when he doesnt believe in it, like for reactions, so I'm predisposed to do this to him and focus more on associations

I… think these are just the same things I said about gob.

So when I say pretty much this, but in more words, it’s scummy to you? I don’t understand your reasoning at all.

I see a similarity in part of what we both pointed out about gob, but you're drawing a different conclusion, one that I think you came to too easily.

How is a slight townread like 125 posts in something you can come to “too easily”?

I just don’t see anything scum-indicative with him, and therefore that makes me think he has a decent chance of being town—it’s not that complicated.

[Hu Tao]

First time in awhile I'm having a hard time finding someone to scum read.

[gob]

didn't take Gob for someone weak to a little bit of leafy pressure

youre just bugging me

[AnimatedWiz]

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko. I think that you’re trying to twist my read into something it’s not, and I’m unsure

why

.

[Flavor Leaf]

didn't take Gob for someone weak to a little bit of leafy pressure

youre just bugging me

dont ask for the heat if youre afraid of a cook puff.

[Flavor Leaf]

You think Gamma wasn't bugged when you were aggressively blanket shade pushing them the game we were scum together? Sounds hypocritical.

Feels more like annoyed scum than annoyed town here.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko. I think that you’re trying to twist my read into something it’s not, and I’m unsure

why

.

my initial reaction was that they wanted to have opposite reads than me, but it could be they saw I was pushing Gob, don't see why, and in their head, they retracted towards, Don't Agree With Flavor!

which could be a paranoid town mindset.

But that took me a minute to get to because my initial reaction was *SAVING GOB* and then chopping down a town read of mine. But it's a little on the nose for that, but won't throw it out, the possibility.

[gob]

alright i finally had my weed and more than 100 calories i wont be in such a bad mood anymor

[Flavor Leaf]

For what it's worth, I'm happy to have ssbm in that spot. I could be wrong and tunneled, but I dont think I am. I still am looking for reasons to town read Gob. Still looking into every other slot. Good spot to be on Page 12.

I don't take 'Gob just seems to do whatever' seriously as a defense. That doesn't mean it's unreadable. People liked to do that with Not Mafia, and I think NM is readable. Gob does a lot more than NM too.

[gob]

I think SirCakes is scum cause he usually does this slank type shit as scum (i taught him)

But i dont want to lim him, i want to play with him

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: wiz

I'll go here for now

[Hu Tao]

Sure cakez could be scum but he's had 2 posts. Hard to tell.

[gob]

Sure cakez could be scum but he's had 2 posts. Hard to tell.

Hard for you maybe

[Flavor Leaf]

AnimatedWiz
Thomith
Roden
Naerys

RCEnigma
Bingle
Hu Tao
Celebloki

ssbm_kyouko
Dunnstral

SirCakez

Gob

[Flavor Leaf]

no order in between tiers

[Hu Tao]

Why is wiz town?

[Flavor Leaf]

Someone on the Wiz wagon is a Gobby partner.

[gob]

For what it's worth, I'm happy to have ssbm in that spot. I could be wrong and tunneled, but I dont think I am. I still am looking for reasons to town read Gob. Still looking into every other slot. Good spot to be on Page 12.

I don't take 'Gob just seems to do whatever' seriously as a defense. That doesn't mean it's unreadable. People liked to do that with Not Mafia, and I think NM is readable. Gob does a lot more than NM too.

I dont really care if you townread me or not. I dont think kyokou was defending me btw they were just giving a read. The overall read was null iirc, could be misremembering tho


I do agree its not a good defense. That is just how i play as either alignment, ill get bored and do something to spice up the game.

My main towntells in my opinion are frankly, im way meaner as town, way stupider as town and less scared. I also think you could probably compare my posts per day number as scum to town and get some info.

Im not particularly well hidden as either alignment, really. Its a problem but i dont think i can change how i play anymore.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why is wiz town?

a mixture of how they defended Gob, and when I came after them a bit sideways, they made their 114, which i liked, and said it then. In addition, the way they returned against SSBM creating a new 1v1 during a time of contention with Gob main wagon, isn't scum motivated unless Wiz is scum with Gob.

[Flavor Leaf]

For what it's worth, I'm happy to have ssbm in that spot. I could be wrong and tunneled, but I dont think I am. I still am looking for reasons to town read Gob. Still looking into every other slot. Good spot to be on Page 12.

I don't take 'Gob just seems to do whatever' seriously as a defense. That doesn't mean it's unreadable. People liked to do that with Not Mafia, and I think NM is readable. Gob does a lot more than NM too.

I dont really care if you townread me or not. I dont think kyokou was defending me btw they were just giving a read. The overall read was null iirc, could be misremembering tho


I do agree its not a good defense. That is just how i play as either alignment, ill get bored and do something to spice up the game.

My main towntells in my opinion are frankly, im way meaner as town, way stupider as town and less scared. I also think you could probably compare my posts per day number as scum to town and get some info.

Im not particularly well hidden as either alignment, really. Its a problem but i dont think i can change how i play anymore.

Glad to hear it. I can't say I cared one way or another if you cared for me to town read you.

And 'giving a read' in favor, is a way of defending, especially in a Scum/Scum world. I don't think it is a Scum/Scum world with you two, though, so sure.

Nothing is ever truly null.

[Flavor Leaf]

I do think your meta read is likely stronger than mine—he replaced into our game and didn’t agree with the other scum’s strategy of crossbussing, so some of what I may be basing this off of could just be a bit of frustration influencing his gameplay then.

He was very, uh, direct and didn’t try to cloak himself with a lack of detail—seemed to sort of be asking for people to challenge him about his reads to hopefully have them potentially slip up and therefore be an easy target for a miselim. However, later on he went very quiet and stalled, intentionally spending as long as he could before revealing his claimed night actions when pressured by everyone else.

I can see the sort of challenge he declared in 102 as just being part of his general gamestyle—I’ve not played a town game with him, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he used similar strategies to bait slips from others as town.

114, not 144.

[Flavor Leaf]

oh i said that

[Flavor Leaf]

Imo, Wiz/SSBM is likely Town/Town. They defended Gob in the same way. This is probably true even if Gob is town.