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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:56 pm

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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:57 pm

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Not much ai in Knott's iso either
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:58 pm

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In post 315, Elements wrote:
In post 296, Black wrote: First thoughts fresh off the read is that Dann feel
pretty townie.
What is this based on other than ?
There's nothing Dann has done I can't see him doing as red team without much effort
i could never make this post as scum
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:59 pm

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Big hood

Daisy

Black
Everyone else

Small Hood

Ydra
Ari
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:00 pm

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In post 324, Meuh wrote:
In post 314, Meuh wrote:
In post 313, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 309, Meuh wrote:
In post 305, Black wrote:
In post 288, Meuh wrote: Lol Black you’re currently at E-1, good luck
Who in the small hood do you think is most likely to be scum atm
I was thinking Elements, but I have a similar feeling in regards to Ydra that I did the last time I played with her when she was scum, and that fills me with dread
this is a very vague comment, what game are you recalling?
that I dismissed in that game
if this was in response to what i said: the fact that it doesn't look (?) like it ever manifested makes this harder for me to believe or put weight into (and by extension the honesty of the read). if you're town it sucks that i'm dismissing it and i'm sorry but if you're wolf it's a convenient tool to break out.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:00 pm

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black i am suspicious of you town reading me so easily and would be grateful if you would expand on what exactly is making you lean that way for me
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:01 pm

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In post 329, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 324, Meuh wrote:
In post 314, Meuh wrote:
In post 313, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 309, Meuh wrote:
In post 305, Black wrote:
In post 288, Meuh wrote: Lol Black you’re currently at E-1, good luck
Who in the small hood do you think is most likely to be scum atm
I was thinking Elements, but I have a similar feeling in regards to Ydra that I did the last time I played with her when she was scum, and that fills me with dread
this is a very vague comment, what game are you recalling?
that I dismissed in that game
if this was in response to what i said: the fact that it doesn't look (?) like it ever manifested makes this harder for me to believe or put weight into (and by extension the honesty of the read). if you're town it sucks that i'm dismissing it and i'm sorry but if you're wolf it's a convenient tool to break out.
(to clarify more: if you're town and genuinely think i'm wolf i think you should probably case me on the content of this game and we can have a conversation which is more likely to help us find each other than the back and forth over this other game.

or i will never trust you and you will die!!!)
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:03 pm

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In post 322, Elements wrote: Daisy still town
We'd both be in the small hood if either of us was red team
unless we both were
also i don't disagree with the daisy town thing but i think it's probably more helpful to explain in context of this game compared to a meta point that matters... mostly to only the two of you.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:05 pm

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ydrasse are you leaning one way or another on elements/aristeia
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:07 pm

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In post 333, Dannflor wrote: ydrasse are you leaning one way or another on elements/aristeia
no, not yet
i have some ruminations but they're without much substance underneath
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:08 pm

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me about everything
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:09 pm

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much to think about
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:09 pm

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pondering
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:11 pm

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In post 332, Ydrasse wrote: also i don't disagree with the daisy town thing but i think it's probably more helpful to explain in context of this game compared to a meta point that matters... mostly to only the two of you.
The read is all based on that
Daisy and I are good friends irl and I wouldn't be able to resist putting us in a hood together and I like to think she wouldn't either
It's not a read that will nessecerily persist through the rest of the game, but it's the strongest ai thing anyone has done this game given i don't have any idea how anyone else would split the group
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:14 pm

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VOTE: meuh
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:17 pm

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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:20 pm

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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:20 pm

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In post 340, OopsieDaisy wrote: VOTE: Meuh
Daisy!
A naked vote! :O
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:22 pm

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In post 338, Elements wrote:
In post 332, Ydrasse wrote: also i don't disagree with the daisy town thing but i think it's probably more helpful to explain in context of this game compared to a meta point that matters... mostly to only the two of you.
The read is all based on that
Daisy and I are good friends irl and I wouldn't be able to resist putting us in a hood together and I like to think she wouldn't either
It's not a read that will nessecerily persist through the rest of the game, but it's the strongest ai thing anyone has done this game given i don't have any idea how anyone else would split the group
i.. don't know if i agree with the AI part, someone has probably done something but we don't have the retrospective view on it yet
also tangentially i was reminded of the space game i played like two years ago offsite that you ran. that was a funny game
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:23 pm

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If people want me to explain my read on El from an in-game context, I struggle to see why they choose to be in the small hood based on the fact that they're a player who doesn't get consistent early townreads in games (not even from me).

Like if the expectation is that the small hood gets the focus, and you know that you're a player who is often hovering in danger of mislims Day 1, why would that be a good idea? The only answer I find is the WIFOM angle.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:25 pm

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i unironically think aristeia is the scum in the small hood because is too nice
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:26 pm

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In post 344, OopsieDaisy wrote: If people want me to explain my read on El from an in-game context, I struggle to see why they choose to be in the small hood based on the fact that they're a player who doesn't get consistent early townreads in games (not even from me).

Like if the expectation is that the small hood gets the focus, and you know that you're a player who is often hovering in danger of mislims Day 1, why would that be a good idea? The only answer I find is the WIFOM angle.
this is interesting because - is that actually the expectation of the small hood? i feel like this setup's been ran enough that people who are familiar with it know that you can autowin on D1 which is an alluring choice.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:26 pm

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In post 344, OopsieDaisy wrote: If people want me to explain my read on El from an in-game context, I struggle to see why they choose to be in the small hood based on the fact that they're a player who doesn't get consistent early townreads in games (not even from me).

Like if the expectation is that the small hood gets the focus, and you know that you're a player who is often hovering in danger of mislims Day 1, why would that be a good idea? The only answer I find is the WIFOM angle.
If Elements is scum then wouldn't it make more sense to go into the small hood from this perspective? If they get faded in the big hood then it's just gg

I think scum!Elements would put herself into the small hood and try to keep the attention on the big hood just like she's been doing
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:26 pm

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to expand, i think it is more focused on looking good than actually getting alignment indicative content from knott

i also think is kinda awkward and pockety?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:27 pm

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I also think scum!elements would put itself in the small hood
I don't think scum!elements would put Ydra and Ari in there too
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