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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:07 pm

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votecount 1.14


Aristeia (1) - Afrayed Knott
OopsieDaisy (1) - Elements
Elements (1) - OopsieDaisy
fireisredsir (1) - Black
Black (1) - Dannflor

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(4) - Ydrasse, Meuh, fireisredsir, Aristeia

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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:13 pm

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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:18 pm

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not really feeling inclined to move that vote
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:18 pm

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also this is an extremely lazy read but i don't think fire takes this much heat if he's scum lol
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:22 pm

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In post 566, Black wrote: Ari is either town or she's scum with Daisy imo
im banking a lot off of aristeia being scum but i also just think black has the highest partner equity with her out of everyone in the big hood

and like idk

i feel like i have been able to tell in the past when aristeia has genuinely scum read me and realized that and been able to reach across the aisle, but i am not feeling that this is the case this time

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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:28 pm

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What’s your read on Black independently of Ari?
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:11 pm

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I mean still scum

I think the way she has interacted (or not interacted) with both me and Ari is strange and that is regardless of Ari’s alignment
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:41 pm

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shiki replaces Black
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:43 pm

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hi hi hi +)

haven't read anything but i'll get on that shortly
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:49 pm

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okay let's see

first instinct from the split is that it's like

elements and someone familiar with aristeia/ydrasse?

idk

a lot of levels involved prolly but that's the way split makes the most sense to me right now
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:51 pm

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In post 9, Elements wrote: VOTE: jupiter
If we hit the red team member in the group of 5 day 1 we just win right?
i do like this though
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:51 pm

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In post 785, shiki wrote:
In post 9, Elements wrote: VOTE: jupiter
If we hit the red team member in the group of 5 day 1 we just win right?
i do like this though

but also probably something one thinks about before having an alignment
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:00 pm

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In post 17, Elements wrote: Anyone else got any thoughts if anyone would neighbourise with specific people?
it is like

sure aristeia/ydrasse might choose that small neighbourhood composition but also meuh/fireisredsir would probably choose it for them as well like the whole thing is meta reliant and not particularly worthwhile to examine in great depth

but i do think it's noteworthy you want to encourage people to talk about it (without really talking about it yourself outside of 'i would be with oopsiedaisy')
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:13 pm

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In post 73, fireisredsir wrote: i think the nice thing about this setup is that it does give you some info immediately to talk about bc scum made decisions about who goes where

i guess i don't really have strong opinions about it but my vibe is unironically that dann scum arranges things differently

and on the other side i could pretty easily imagine ari scum setting things up this way
hmmmm, how do you think scum!dannflor arranges things?

like strong scums especially one good at town(mis)leading in big hood makes sense to me and beyond that it's mostly just giving himself best angles to set up the endgame he wants i assume
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:20 pm

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In post 76, fireisredsir wrote: i guess my thought process with dann went like:

i see the groups -> my eye is immediately drawn to dann as someone who like stands out as someone i want to focus on and sort in our group -> i think dann would probably want to avoid this singular focus bc he is dann the deepwolf -> dann probably doesn't make that choice as scum
oh i see

not really sure how much sense this makes because like...

the smaller group is more likely to be focused on/singled out/less good for deepwolves

and!

i don't really think dannflor would want aristeia in same grouping (who might pull earlygame focus but!) undesirable to try to endgame
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:22 pm

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In post 765, OopsieDaisy wrote: Is there a reason your vote isn't on Ari then, if you think she's probably scum?
not really no

felt like i was still waiting for people to catch up ig
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:25 pm

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in hindsight my initial reasoning about dann is kind of funny bc i have largely ignored sorting him so far
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:26 pm

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i should probably read more than the following two posts before commenting on something while catching up
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:33 pm

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In post 115, fireisredsir wrote: elements feels like their position on ari developed as a result of ari's read on ydra (which sets up a 1v1) rather than being a natural result of their own read on ydra or ari

hmhmhm

okay but why would scum!elements want to 1v1 aristeia in this position

(though elements then immediately returns to 'but i wanna focus on the big hood' which, eh, could be because of your drawing attention to it but also consistent with earlier, so)
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:33 pm

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In post 793, shiki wrote:
In post 115, fireisredsir wrote: elements feels like their position on ari developed as a result of ari's read on ydra (which sets up a 1v1) rather than being a natural result of their own read on ydra or ari

hmhmhm

okay but why would scum!elements want to 1v1 aristeia in this position

(though elements then immediately returns to 'but i wanna focus on the big hood' which, eh, could be because of your drawing attention to it but also consistent with earlier, so)
i thought it felt like they felt forced into it, not that they wanted to
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:36 pm

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In post 794, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 793, shiki wrote:
In post 115, fireisredsir wrote: elements feels like their position on ari developed as a result of ari's read on ydra (which sets up a 1v1) rather than being a natural result of their own read on ydra or ari

hmhmhm

okay but why would scum!elements want to 1v1 aristeia in this position

(though elements then immediately returns to 'but i wanna focus on the big hood' which, eh, could be because of your drawing attention to it but also consistent with earlier, so)
i thought it felt like they felt forced into it, not that they wanted to

do you think elements generally feels the need to take a stance in a situation like that as a scums rather than just let time pass
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:40 pm

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In post 187, Elements wrote:
In post 184, Aristeia wrote:
In post 182, OopsieDaisy wrote: the fire bit im a bit iffy on but i think there's like a 50/50 chance ari flips scum
there's a 0% chance I flip scum
If we're wrong we can flip ydra after and vindicate you

idk doesn't really feel, simply reactive, to me
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:42 pm

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idk elements' scum style
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:42 pm

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why would i not want to put ari in the same group as me?
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:45 pm

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In post 798, Dannflor wrote: why would i not want to put ari in the same group as me?

because if you want to eliminate in the small hood (presumed due to scum abilities et cetera) you want to be able to nightkill whoever is perceived to be most valuable to town and aristeia can be difficult to endgame so i assume you would not want to limit options
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