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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:19 pm

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In post 2324, yessiree wrote: you haven't read most of my iso my brutha

but, that is definitely a Drew post
I literally have said I haven't read most of the game lol.

Also I literally said this is based off of your most recent posts, like I said a fly by the seat of my pants sort of read.

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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:20 pm

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UNVOTE:

Also, didn't realize Titus had that many votes. Will hold off for now.
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:26 pm

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but do you have a read on Titus though?
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:29 pm

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In post 2327, yessiree wrote: but do you have a read on Titus though?
Not really, but I like pressure on her and not everyone voting her can be scum so I am ok with the wagon.

Just didn't like putting her at E-2.

God dammit, like I said before I guess I really need to effort and iso Titus.

I was hoping she would post more, I can decently read her from time to time.
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:34 pm

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Ok like, this is pretty clear townTitus, or at least not scumTitus.

Are some of these votes on who she subbed into?
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:36 pm

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my read is partly based on her pred and partly her

why is she not scum here?
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:41 pm

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In post 2329, Doctor Drew wrote: Ok like, this is pretty clear townTitus, or at least not scumTitus.
This is a weird take I feel
It has to be either town or scum Titus? Like I get what you’re probably saying on paper but the execution is wack
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:43 pm

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In post 2330, yessiree wrote: my read is partly based on her pred and partly her

why is she not scum here?
She is way more focused as scum, she always has an analytical approach to the game, but is more free flowing as town.

There is a bit of stubborness I get from a few posts in her iso that I used to view as a scum tell of hers, but I feel is more ai now.

What is it about Titus and her pred that you don't like?

Pre Edit: Gamma, I realize that it does sound a bit contradictory lol. I just feel that when Titus is scum it is more obvious than when she is town, and I don't see the obvscum aspect of her game here so far.
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:45 pm

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That meta doesn’t feel right
Imma just keep on with the vibe check method
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:46 pm

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In post 2333, Gamma Emerald wrote: That meta doesn’t feel right
Imma just keep on with the vibe check method
What about her vibe don't you like?
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:47 pm

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I tend to resonate with her thought process when she’s town, even if our reads don’t align
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:50 pm

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I think at the very least I would've expected a stronger reaction to being wagon'ed

she's not really defending herself and the analysis part feels like it's played to an audience rather than a natural progression to analyzing why she's wagoned

as for her pred others have cased her but i need to dig it up
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:51 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:52 pm

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In post 2335, Gamma Emerald wrote: I tend to resonate with her thought process when she’s town, even if our reads don’t align
You are being vague here
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:00 pm

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In post 2325, Doctor Drew wrote: A fresh set of eyes helps bring up things others may miss.......join me tomorrow for more Philosophical Posts with Drew
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:01 pm

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i blame this setup for everyone leaving the game.
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:04 pm

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Lets just end this day. We aren't getting anywhere. Hua Tao move back to Titus.

I shouldn't have delayed this earlier by telling us to slow down. Nothing has changed since when I tried to give Titus more time. Lets elim Titus and move to next phase. With some flips we will get more energy and figure stuff out tomorrow.

Replacement for gob can help us out tomorrow.
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:05 pm

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In post 2338, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2335, Gamma Emerald wrote: I tend to resonate with her thought process when she’s town, even if our reads don’t align
You are being vague here
I can see how she gets to the reads she has when she's town, I don't really get that feeling when she's scum
that's the best I got
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:08 pm

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i do agree we need a flip and move on

i will even be the scapegoat and take the blame for firebringer if we're wrong on ssbm_kyouko/Titus
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:09 pm

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btw who is ur n0 inno @Drew

i dont think Black ever said who it is
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:09 pm

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^^^ Not voting Titus.
Python seems insistent to not vote here for ~reasons~ which I haven't read or care about. Maybe ari has a point on trying to split the wagon but I think Python is most likely town.

Everyone else if ur not voting Titus I want to hear why she is solid town to u. Give me town-reasons not just a weak sauce defense of "theres better votes" or "not that scummy" or anything that isn't your willing to call a strong to die on a hill strong on calling town.

Come on
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:16 pm

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In post 2343, yessiree wrote: i do agree we need a flip and move on

i will even be the scapegoat and take the blame for firebringer if we're wrong on ssbm_kyouko/Titus
Isn't it like 5 days to deadline?
In post 2344, yessiree wrote: btw who is ur n0 inno @Drew

i dont think Black ever said who it is
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^^^ Not voting Titus.
Python seems insistent to not vote here for ~reasons~ which I haven't read or care about. Maybe ari has a point on trying to split the wagon but I think Python is most likely town.

Everyone else if ur not voting Titus I want to hear why she is solid town to u. Give me town-reasons not just a weak sauce defense of "theres better votes" or "not that scummy" or anything that isn't your willing to call a strong to die on a hill strong on calling town.

Come on
How about you say why she is scummy.

I offered my nuke to you once, you could at least offer to sell her as scum to me.
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:18 pm

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Drew these are my commentaries on SSBM and Titus, I was leaning more scummy on SSBM and Neutral on Titus but I am scumreading slot. Titus posts haven't moved me since these posts.
In post 1573, Firebringer wrote:
Spoiler: ssbm quote wall

Lets go through this iso for anything good or juicy
In post 605, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 255, Naerys wrote: Python vs Gamma looks interesting. Is scum hiding in there?
Gamma is my N0 inno
My first post of ssbm sent alarm bells. Gamma here is a prime target going for easy fake N0 and even probably white knighting to pretend to be doing something in the game at this point.
In post 616, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 493, Gamma Emerald wrote:
@kyouko
you're seeing what I'm seeing, right?
I don't think I know what you're seeing, but I'm not really seeing, so probably not
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In post 493, Gamma Emerald wrote:
@kyouko
you're seeing what I'm seeing, right?
Unless you were talking about theta rolling for a N0 inno which is obviously not how it would work
Yeah this happened after gamma tagged them. Which means could have tried to fake the n0 to appease gamma given have some history/wants to get in good graces. If i want to start conspiracy thinking here gamma could be good at reading ssbm. Who knows. Not really extremely alignment indicative but did inform me of a history and since gamma already was trying to talk to ssbm before first post tells me the point of N0 was ingrace to her imo.
In post 621, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 600, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 596, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: scum are roleplaying in the first 4 pages it looks like
wdym
Black's scum queen's court thing feels played out to the point of it being scummy to me. Dragon's asterisked posting is also icky
This has been an easy to take stance with others saying black weird seems over eager etc but the way its done is just so generic and not covering any new ground that its even scummy to me . Of course could not be well thought out town posting I guess if we want to be fair to a later comment.
In post 624, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: anyways
VOTE: Black
In post 645, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I'll probably have to read this all again slower and when I'm fresh in the morning but I feel good about scum!Black from the first few pages
not buying the scumread on black tbh
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In post 657, Gamma Emerald wrote: Is that supposed to be some sort of own?
I held them because I wanted to see how kyouko reacted when I had my blade sheathed.
But since she claims me as her n0 that won’t really do much.
I don't really understand this but even without a N0 on you I can tell from the below posts you're town

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In post 159, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 158, yessiree wrote: sorry you rolled scum Gamma

it is what it is
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I don’t think you believe this.
In post 161, Gamma Emerald wrote: Can you legitimately fucking not
In post 169, Gamma Emerald wrote: I like how when Dragon tries to engage Python it works but when I try Python just goes “nah ur scum get fukt”
In post 670, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 658, Black wrote:
In post 645, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I'll probably have to read this all again slower and when I'm fresh in the morning but I feel good about scum!Black from the first few pages
Yeah...no shot kyouko can be confident in a scumread based purely on me roleplaying :lol:

This has to be scum
I feel like you know I am confident as a player more often than not, but maybe I'm not remembering our history correctly
This feels out of place with previous comments about black. Too neutral sounding. Like thinks black should know better here but is saying not like thinks could have a meta argument but backs out. Might just not want to engage in meta arguments.
In post 677, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 674, Black wrote:
In post 670, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 658, Black wrote:
In post 645, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I'll probably have to read this all again slower and when I'm fresh in the morning but I feel good about scum!Black from the first few pages
Yeah...no shot kyouko can be confident in a scumread based purely on me roleplaying :lol:

This has to be scum
I feel like you know I am confident as a player more often than not, but maybe I'm not remembering our history correctly
I don't think it's scummy to be confident, but context matters. You're confident in a read based on me having fun during RVS/the first few hours of the game. And that's apparently the only read you have? It doesn't seem believable

I would like to hear the thought process that went into this read, specifically why you think scum!me is more likely to roleplay at the beginning of a game than town!me
You and DE I think, to be clear. There's not any thought
process
to it, no reasoning is involved. I just thought when I was reading it, it seemed unnatural. As did DE's eagerness to join in. This probably makes you unaligned though the more I think on it

Drinking some fizzy water now to get my juices flowing again
Just keeping this post for thought process on black for completeness to not ignore it.
In post 682, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 40, DragonEater70 wrote: Mmmm

Furitve, Python, Black, yessiree, Hu Tao, Naerys, RCEnigma, Theta Alpine, Meuh

Could you please confirm I invited you to /in and then you did?
this is a dumb reason to SR DE, is that what's happening in this game?
Defending DE in a white knighting way to me.
In post 708, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 692, Black wrote:
In post 677, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 674, Black wrote:
In post 670, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 658, Black wrote:
In post 645, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I'll probably have to read this all again slower and when I'm fresh in the morning but I feel good about scum!Black from the first few pages
Yeah...no shot kyouko can be confident in a scumread based purely on me roleplaying :lol:

This has to be scum
I feel like you know I am confident as a player more often than not, but maybe I'm not remembering our history correctly
I don't think it's scummy to be confident, but context matters. You're confident in a read based on me having fun during RVS/the first few hours of the game. And that's apparently the only read you have? It doesn't seem believable

I would like to hear the thought process that went into this read, specifically why you think scum!me is more likely to roleplay at the beginning of a game than town!me
You and DE I think, to be clear. There's not any thought
process
to it, no reasoning is involved. I just thought when I was reading it, it seemed unnatural. As did DE's eagerness to join in. This probably makes you unaligned though the more I think on it

Drinking some fizzy water now to get my juices flowing again
I just find it hard to believe that you think my page 3 stuff is the scummiest thing in the game and is your most confident read. It comes across as scum trying not to spew as opposed to town thinking critically about the game and trying to solve it
My most confident read is town!Gamma, regardless of my N0 on her. You might say that's convenient if I'm not a cop, and fortunate if I am one. You are my most confident scumread though, yes
Yeah don't believe the gamma read at all.
In post 711, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: ftr 37 is
also
a bad reason to SR DE
Defending Dragon eater again.


Will do Titus soon but assuming much less there for me to actually comment on
In post 1577, Firebringer wrote:
Spoiler: Titus wall
In post 1108, Titus wrote:
In post 1105, Firebringer wrote: hi Titus, i didn't like ur previous slot. This seems to be a running theme with us as of late. Maybe we can break the cycle and u can scumread me too.
Ok. If you want. XD

But seriously, our last game together all you had to do was be decent to people and it was a cake walk. This game I will not let you off so easy.
Theres a theme in Titus entrance that she is relaxed/chill and not that serious about the game. This isn't alignment indicative to me. Just a note im making.
In post 1111, Titus wrote:
In post 1110, Firebringer wrote: theres a secret scum tell of mine that i think only prism picked up on that game. If i seem like the most sane person in the game. Good chances are i am scum.
Fair. I'll brb. Laundry
I don't believe Titus did her Laundry.
In post 1119, Titus wrote:
In post 1116, Black wrote: FB as the Scum King? I'll allow it
VOTE: Black

You'll let him but not me? The most prolific poster ever
Joke vote. I think Titus is trying to get into the game without putting in effort yet.
In post 1151, Titus wrote: Black are you scum with Ari?

VOTE: Aristeia
Don't like the vote on Ari at all. I need to whiteknight ari and Titus is evil for voting her. Also this is typical Titus logic of Ari/Black aligned like what?
In post 1156, Titus wrote:
In post 1152, Black wrote: Yes
Ok makes sense. That's why the votes are the way they are.

Now to solve why there's a double voter xD
Still joking
In post 1176, Titus wrote: Theta might be scum with Firebringer :(
I will probably never understand this. Its probably to do with vote trends.
In post 1182, Titus wrote:
In post 1177, gob wrote:
In post 1176, Titus wrote: Theta might be scum with Firebringer :(
y
Voting patterns. People feel afraid of wagons.
I was right. I did cheat because I saw this post when I was clicking to add quotes. But I forget it as I was writing responses but I will still claim im right.
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In post 1216, Titus wrote: Just follow your n0 cop or hypo cop for now if they're voting.. Then play from here. I haven't read.
This is probably the most townie thing Titus could say which begs question of why she isn't doing that or even acknowledged her prior slots N0. Is it lazy town or scum. She isn't ingrained in the game so why doesn't she follow her n0
In post 1228, Titus wrote:
In post 1220, Firebringer wrote: gob: lets speedwagon this
also gob: not much has happened. no need for cliff notes
I concur with that. We need wagons for the VCA. However, I don't think Gob us a VCA user.
God no
In post 1275, Titus wrote: VOTE: Hu Tao
Easy person to push.
In post 1296, Titus wrote: I'm conflicted. Hu Tao not giving reads is scummy but I'm really wanting wagons.
Doesn't make sense with previous post. Titus logic.


Not much there don't think it helps my scumcase that much if at all.
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:26 pm

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Meh, not really seeing the case on either.

And slightly feels like you are assigning how you would play to Kyo's play

And that you never were gonna give Titus a chance either way.
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:27 pm

Post by Firebringer »

Drew, I know ur fresh here. But I am actually pretty frustrated with this gamestate. And your comments are just making me more annoyed. I will not take this out on you because I know ur just getting into the game.

But I actually put quite a bit of effort in this game and I don't have anything better for you.
If you have some golden case on anyone I am here to listen but just tearing me down like that I got nothing. Isn't useful. At all.
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