Mini Normal 2322: Game Over

[HighPrincessErinys]

We still have 4 days, and I do think that the only town who is truly locked in for the day is Flavor. we can definitely swing a scumflip toDay if we all consolidate on Gamma or HPE and ignore Flavor

Completely turned on Gamma lmao

Where do I TR Gamma? Are you even reading?

Forgetting about the part where you kept pulling her leg going "yes!! you can read me!! im saved!!" already?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

[Hu Tao]

I would prefer gamma here. But I don't think we have the votes to do so.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: gamma

Let's try

[HighPrincessErinys]

Think gera should have been prodded between 1244 and 1835 but this slot is beyond worthless so what's the point in bringing it back into the game anyhow.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

Well, distancing.

A good strategy is to try and split votes from partner to partner.

Kyouko over Gamma, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hu Tao move makes me paranoid of my Kyouko/Hu Tao team.

[Hu Tao]

I think joyboy/gamma is still the worst slot here

[HighPrincessErinys]

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

Well, distancing.

A good strategy is to try and split votes from partner to partner.

Kyouko over Gamma, though.

Can you like, get Dragon to sheep you again so we can actually maybe get a Kyouko scumflip before new years.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nah, Gamma town.

I’m shooting in whoever’s on Gamma right now, cuz it’s obv scum are in that.

[Hu Tao]

We both know you're not shooting me. What did gamma do to be town?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think joyboy/gamma is still the worst slot here

This does not seem like a real read, you’re just coasting on your prior stance without re-evaluating.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma has no reason to come in and disrupt the status quo the way they have unless they are specifically scum WITH Kyouko, so it always makes sense Kyouko first

[Flavor Leaf]

We both know you're not shooting me. What did gamma do to be town?

We both

hope

I’m not at the very least

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

If they are both scum, it’s a distancing plan now.

[Hu Tao]

I think joyboy/gamma is still the worst slot here

This does not seem like a real read, you’re just coasting on your prior stance without re-evaluating.

Based on your earlier post, you said my read made sense so I'm probably scum. Still feel the same? Cause you're kinda saying here my read doesn't make sense and implying I'm still scum

[HighPrincessErinys]

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

If they are both scum, it’s a distancing plan now.

Yeah you're probably right, but you're also right that in this case we still should just flip Kyouko first lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

I think joyboy/gamma is still the worst slot here

This does not seem like a real read, you’re just coasting on your prior stance without re-evaluating.

Based on your earlier post, you said my read made sense so I'm probably scum. Still feel the same? Cause you're kinda saying here my read doesn't make sense and implying I'm still scum

That’s not what I’m saying. The point about you not evaluating me based on my post and just sticking to your pre-determined read is NAI. If you’re scum you made the read up, if you’re town you formed it looking at joyboy’s posts.

[cw357]

IMO dragon getting on the gamma wagon with kyouku reeks of scum trying to get on a wagon with an imminent townflip. I obviously scumread dragon, and I find it hard to see scum dragon getting on a wagon with scum kyouku when kyouku is probably about to be elimed. VOTE: Dragon

it's not tunneling if ur right

[Flavor Leaf]

@cw57 - looking at Dragon's posting I think he would join an HPE wagon. With you and I that could make 3.

I was checking Purplemango because I recalled he was back-and-forth between HPE and Laplacian yesterDay. toDay he said he'd rather not vote HPE, though I'm not sure why. Probably can't count on him.

Geraintm, I think, is open to most anything, including myself, still.

I think Pavowski would be open to HPE still given the way it flipped it's read on him earlier, and if he looks at my case I think he'll maybe find it suspicious also that HPE lacked evidence when sheeping onto a Pavowski wagon and still lacks evidence when sheeping onto my wagon. I don't know what he thinks of Gamma yet.

I don't think Flavor will vote HPE today because he's fully pre-flip associating it as town based on the assumption I'm scum (which seems to stem partly from paranoia that if I am scum I will take control toMorrow)

And if Hu Tao still stands by their 973 and their 1805, I think they would join a wagon on either of HPE or Gamma.

We still have 4 days, and I do think that the only town who is truly locked in for the day is Flavor. we can definitely swing a scumflip toDay if we all consolidate on Gamma or HPE and ignore Flavor

Kyouko trying to act like my HPE read is based off of them, when it’s the other way around.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

If they are both scum, it’s a distancing plan now.

Yeah you're probably right, but you're also right that in this case we still should just flip Kyouko first lmao

I just don’t think Gamma is scum.

Kyouko’s posts have a lot of subtle manipulation in them, like saying I’m preflip associating you, when I’ve just come to town read HPE. I didn’t scum read Kyouko then go “HPE must be town because of it!”

[cw357]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

[cw357]

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

If they are both scum, it’s a distancing plan now.

Yeah you're probably right, but you're also right that in this case we still should just flip Kyouko first lmao

I just don’t think Gamma is scum.

Kyouko’s posts have a lot of subtle manipulation in them, like saying I’m preflip associating you, when I’ve just come to town read HPE. I didn’t scum read Kyouko then go “HPE must be town because of it!”

page 73 kyouku is fairly bad from my recollection
idk if a dragon vote doesn't pick up steam i might be back on kyouku
but I definitely see the case for kyouku over gamma

[Flavor Leaf]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

Dragon has helped Kyouko wagon more than anyone, I think

[Flavor Leaf]

Dragon also has setup a situation where its a risk to vig them, and have been playing in a way where if I’m suspicious of Dragon, I might shoot Hu Tao, which a Hu Tao Town Vig shot helps get a Dragon Scum Fade in the future.