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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:17 am

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I think the counterwagons deserve way more scrutiny than trying to call giving someone time for RL derailing a wagon and then bussing when time was up.
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:20 am

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In post 3425, davesaz wrote: I think the counterwagons deserve way more scrutiny than trying to call giving someone time for RL derailing a wagon and then bussing when time was up.
:roll: Using the fact, that i respect RL stuff and wanted to give her more time IS NOT FAIR AND U ARE KINDLY PISSING ME OFF WITH THIS.
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:27 am

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I think Dave is agreeing wit you?
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:28 am

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In post 3427, Bellaphant wrote: I think Dave is agreeing wit you?
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:32 am

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Seems like i need more English lessons, then, my bad.
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:18 am

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In post 3425, davesaz wrote: I think the counterwagons deserve way more scrutiny than trying to call giving someone time for RL derailing a wagon and then bussing when time was up.
Can you expand on this
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:07 am

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In post 3430, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 3425, davesaz wrote: I think the counterwagons deserve way more scrutiny than trying to call giving someone time for RL derailing a wagon and then bussing when time was up.
Can you expand on this
On the 2nd half of it, a bunch of people are trying to call Naerys and me scum for supposedly dragging our feet on Titus.

On the 1st half of it, Firebringer comes to mind as someone trying to push CWs to Titus, and he's also involved in trying to discredit me for quite openly holding off voting Titus until after some time passed. There are others, but I haven't had time to dig a lot as my non-work RL has been quite full this week.
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:24 am

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my scum read on naerys was conditional on yess being scum as well so

i will just
stay on yess

as someone who also tends to give people a bit of leniency for having just replaced in or expressing irl business
especially during the holidays

i am not fond of the reasons people are giving for scum reading naerys
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:26 am

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I can't read FB for shit and I'm starting to think naerys is town, but I do agree that Titus was bussed in some capacity. I don't really have a strong read on you at all, but I think I've found you difficult to read before.

What did you mean by counter wagons? Apart from yessiree I think most of the wagons yesterday were on town.
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:27 am

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I think people piling on Ney last night is super Sus.
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:28 am

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VOTE: yes man
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:29 am

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In post 3345, yessiree wrote:
In post 3340, Bellaphant wrote: What FB said about the bus kind of lines up with my reads: there's scum in Dave, nearys and yess. Yess has been my top SR since about page ten and nothing has changed it
Are you a theta clone?

How is possible that ur read on me hasn't changed since page 10
Can I also point out how bad this is? It doesn't even make sense: some people do have reads that don't change massively, including sr. In a few games this year I've had day one sr be correct, that's not like....unheard of for other people at all either.

The question isn't even a question. If we want to sort out each other, surely you'd ask me why, about other reads, about...well, anything.
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:31 am

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The open me and black just finished, for example: bbmolla replaced in, I straight away said 'this is exactly what you were like in the newbie when you were scum ' I called him scum for three days, I powered his lim, he was scum.

I'm not blowing my own trumpet, I'm just baffled that that was the response
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:37 am

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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:14 am

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In post 3433, Bellaphant wrote: I can't read FB for shit and I'm starting to think naerys is town, but I do agree that Titus was bussed in some capacity. I don't really have a strong read on you at all, but I think I've found you difficult to read before.

What did you mean by counter wagons? Apart from yessiree I think most of the wagons yesterday were on town.
On tablet so I can't edit down.
Cw to scum are on town. For example the wagon on de.
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:36 am

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In post 2638, Alisae wrote:
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Meuh, Hu Tao, davesaz, usesPython, yessiree, Naerys
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NOT VOTING:
Bellaphant, Doctor Drew
With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to flip!
Deadline: (expired on 2023-12-25 01:44:07)
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:37 am

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I am partying. While i will look for the game, don't expect me to do something meaningful.

... Wait did anything really change?
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:46 am

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seeking replacement for hu tao & prodding RCEnigma
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:48 am

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Can most of yall stop arguing in bad faith?

When I point out everyone who was giving Titus space because of RL issues, I am not saying ur scum for it.

For one I pointed out to Davesaz that ur vote and reason looks like a possible buss. You unvoting her for RL stuff is NAI but still conveniant if ur scum trying to defuse the wagon. Yall trying to make some moral argument of "ohh i would do that for anyone. I am just a good boy/girl" is so ridiculous.

Sure you might, who cares the central argument is your vote was bussing and you leaving it was opportunity to stop the push. Stop strawmanning the arguments against you, and engage with the meat of why your vote/pressure wasn't bussing cause thats the key component.
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:51 am

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In post 3435, usesPython wrote: VOTE: yes man
This is not being counted as I don't know who it's for.
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:51 am

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Also if you agree that scum were trying to diffuse the wagon on Titus @Davesaz to the point ur saying the CW needs scrutiny. You unvoting is diffusing the wagon as much as me pushing a counter.

Instead of also saying we need more scrutiny on the CW. How about you actually go into who is scum for it and why? Go into my posts for example if you think I both (A) was hard bussing Titus then (B) got cold feat so I counterwagoned.

Make the arguments.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:51 am

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yessiree (4)
Theta Alpine, Bellaphant, davesaz, Firebringer
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:53 am

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In post 1868, davesaz wrote: UNVOTE:
I'd be back on Titus but don't want to flirt with a lim while she's AFK. That isn't an infinite thing but 7 days isn't crunch yet.

It's really tempting to go inquisition mode on Hu Tao. I think it's definitely in her scum range to have this be a something new as scum.
Like this is asking for a counterwagon on Hu Tao at the time of unvote. You just didn't place a vote there and my argument for this being scummy could just as easily be that you were feeling out a counter to Hua Toa but didn't want to be seen as scummy for immediately pressing hard for a counter wagon. Like you are suggesting I am scummy for doing with DE
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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:03 am

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In post 3444, Alisae wrote:
In post 3435, usesPython wrote: VOTE: yes man
This is not being counted as I don't know who it's for.
smh

VOTE: yessiree
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:07 am

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Hmm

Yessiree has been openly joking in every post and that gets tiring

On the other hand, I still think Naerys is different from Large Multiball towngame and I want to support Meuh's push

It's a tough one

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