Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[Theta Alpine]

i mean it could be both

i did suspect naerys a lot earlier when day 1 was actually active of bussing yess at one point

but that is a read contingent on yess being scum as well so
logic suggests doing yess first

[Gamma Emerald]

I support the naerys vote because I forgot she was a player earlier on and that’s stuck with me especially since others have expressed similar feelings

[furtiveglance]

I'll mull it over and decide when I get back

[usesPython]

Why are deadlines 14 days I just wanna kill someone

[yessiree]

What FB said about the bus kind of lines up with my reads: there's scum in Dave, nearys and yess. Yess has been my top SR since about page ten and nothing has changed it

Are you a theta clone?

How is possible that ur read on me hasn't changed since page 10

Can I also point out how bad this is? It doesn't even make sense: some people do have reads that don't change massively, including sr. In a few games this year I've had day one sr be correct, that's not like....unheard of for other people at all either.

The question isn't even a question. If we want to sort out each other, surely you'd ask me why, about other reads, about...well, anything.

you had a few day one srs turn out to be correct, so what? do you have any past experience playing with me? do you know me well enough to pin me to an alignment purely based on early day one?

so far the scum case on me has been
- yessiree hasn't posted anything I liked
- yessiree hasn't posted anything for me to change this
- yessiree bussed Titus
did I miss anything else?

I have over 170+ posts, not all of them are jokes, there are plenty of content on day 2 alone you can use to sort me but you are choosing to do none of that and instead opting to hide behind on your early day one gut read. I seriously doubt the town motivation behind this read of urs - feels like a tunnel at best; players like you and theta with nothing burger reads and no progression are whats allowing scum to push this narrative that I bussed Titus

[Meuh]

What FB said about the bus kind of lines up with my reads: there's scum in Dave, nearys and yess. Yess has been my top SR since about page ten and nothing has changed it

Are you a theta clone?

How is possible that ur read on me hasn't changed since page 10

Can I also point out how bad this is? It doesn't even make sense: some people do have reads that don't change massively, including sr. In a few games this year I've had day one sr be correct, that's not like....unheard of for other people at all either.

The question isn't even a question. If we want to sort out each other, surely you'd ask me why, about other reads, about...well, anything.

you had a few day one srs turn out to be correct, so what? do you have any past experience playing with me? do you know me well enough to pin me to an alignment purely based on early day one?

so far the scum case on me has been
- yessiree hasn't posted anything I liked
- yessiree hasn't posted anything for me to change this
- yessiree bussed Titus
did I miss anything else?

I have over 170+ posts, not all of them are jokes, there are plenty of content on day 2 alone you can use to sort me but you are choosing to do none of that and instead opting to hide behind on your early day one gut read. I seriously doubt the town motivation behind this read of urs - feels like a tunnel at best; players like you and theta with nothing burger reads and no progression are whats allowing scum to push this narrative that I bussed Titus

Drop a good scumcase on someone else then

[Firebringer]

i think his case is that bella is scum. Or being lazy. I can't completely tell tbh

[Meuh]

Actually that post's tone wasn't really warranted from me sorry

Still scumcase someone though you're legally obligated to cause I'm the mayor of this town!

Pedit: Bella seems vaguely like they're solving to me

[Doctor Drew]

i think his case is that bella is scum. Or being lazy. I can't completely tell tbh

Whatever the fuck he was trying to say, it does read as so clearly town though.

It really had a 'frustrated townDrew' vibe to it.

Pre Edit: Meuh, remember we impeached you and installed Ari as our new Queen

[Firebringer]

I didn't vote u for mayor tho

[Meuh]

I'm a despot then

[Firebringer]

I am so glad we overthrew you

[Doctor Drew]

I am so glad we overthrew you

In true America style, if we don't think your leadership aligns with our agenda.

Then we overtake you and install our pre picked leader.

Shit, did I just open wolf too much?

[yessiree]

i think his case is that bella is scum. Or being lazy. I can't completely tell tbh

nah, i dont have a solid read on bella atm, she's just kinda hovering in my poe pool of could be scum

it is annoying, whats shes doing, because i can't look at it without bias and decide if it's scum being lazy or a self-righteous townie deep in a tunnel on an rvs read

I do lean scum on theta though since her reads are rigid af this game
and when I looked at her scum meta earlier there are certainly similarities

[yessiree]

this is my homework teacher, I did not do vibes but focused on playstyles instead

theta in Toonz 27
- analytical, cautious, tends to overthink
- reliant on game mechanics and claims instead of social interactions
- breadth over depth of interaction, all over the place
- changing reads, expresses uncertainty a lot, struggles with forming strong opinions
- not much interactions with teammates

theta This game
- laid-back, but indicated certain level of self-awareness
- indecisive overtone, sheeps A LOT
- unsure on certain slots, FB, kyouko, probing meta on kyouko
- influenced by others like dragon, black re: Ari
- focus on mechanics rather than analysis

overall I see some similarities, like easily being influenced by others and not having strong reads, uncertainty on reads

I would like if to see if there are recent town games so I can cross reference some of the qualities that can be used to scumread her

[RCEnigma]

Drew scum? Wowee.

Uhh super sick, I may not have the energy to be active in the next couple days but I’m following loosely.

Don’t hate the yessirr wagon, I just think it’s on town.

[RCEnigma]

As in don’t hate the composition.

[Firebringer]

i really want a davesaz wagon to happen but i don't know if its because i legit feel super strongly on him begin scum or the way he argued really triggered me.

[Doctor Drew]

this is my homework teacher, I did not do vibes but focused on playstyles instead

theta in Toonz 27
- analytical, cautious, tends to overthink
- reliant on game mechanics and claims instead of social interactions
- breadth over depth of interaction, all over the place
- changing reads, expresses uncertainty a lot, struggles with forming strong opinions
- not much interactions with teammates

theta This game
- laid-back, but indicated certain level of self-awareness
- indecisive overtone, sheeps A LOT
- unsure on certain slots, FB, kyouko, probing meta on kyouko
- influenced by others like dragon, black re: Ari
- focus on mechanics rather than analysis

overall I see some similarities, like easily being influenced by others and not having strong reads, uncertainty on reads

I would like if to see if there are recent town games so I can cross reference some of the qualities that can be used to scumread her

I can dig your read on her, maybe read Boons Ahoy for actual scumTheta as well(which I might too to refresh my memory.......bonus that I was scum that game as well)

[Firebringer]

davesaz
Black n0. scum queen thing felt uncomfortable but I can see how confident town player can pull it off

Gamma Emerald Both meta and gameplay feel town
Meuh mostly vibe
Theta Alpine very difficult to read, approach to game seems town
RCEnigma I would expect inorganic reads if scum, these seem more accurate than not
Naerys Haven't noticed any departures from her usual, but this is a weak lean given lack of scum games to compare with.

DragonEater70 Feel is primarily town but the quantity is large enough that I haven't absorbed it. I like to keep people null till I fully understand what they're doing
Firebringer The claiming scum thing is within scum range. Approach to game seems solvy. Will need some VCA or a better feel of whether interactions are genuine
Aristeia I don't see anything either overtly town or scum.
Hu Tao Acting null on purpose, which is easily within range for either alignment so null she is.
gob I flat out don't know how to read gob.
usesPython I've read a lot of stuff which didn't really register one way or the other.

Bellaphant There isn't enough material to truly read this slot, scum lean on lack of proactive hunting
furtiveglance Very weak lean. Does not seem as inquisitive as previous games.

yessiree Felt off but I have a hard time saying exactly why. More a least town feel than a most scum.
Titus Something is missing. I'll feel bad if the reason it's missing is RL, but I have to call the posts the way I see them.

So this is davesaz big read post. If you notice theres a lack of scumreads. There are a few weak scum leans. None of these are pursued in anything meaninful way except Titus later on.

When I go through davesaz later posts I also don't find a scumread. I see him either possibly if I am being extremely uncharitable feeling out positions on people (or gauging others opinions w/e). Then I see weak reasons that are fence sitting on a player. Which I do too, not gonna say much on it.

I just find it interesting the one person davesaz has had any confidence on scum was Titus.

[Firebringer]

Jesus this is frustrating. Not a single case on me. Objections to voting people that should be pressured. Wtf.

I'm going to react to this as I read it. Not a single case

from

you is the issue.

I feel like Titus would push a theory. The people are split thing is the only thing that's close and there isn't much followup.

I think town Titus tries to make a case on someone, and scum Titus doesn't do that preferring to go along with something.
I've been virtually voting Titus all along, and saying we can use the time until enough people don't want to.

VOTE: Titus

this was what davesaz has been most confident on in the game. I don't see how this can't be a buss.

[Firebringer]

if davesaz is attempting to solve today, I think there should be more effort in certain areas he has either said he would look into or more focus on players he has said he was null/lean scum on before where I think there is a vanishing of concern.

He is now focused on the counter wagon. So if I take his previous reads and see who was countering will that line up or did he just abandon his reads

[Firebringer]

I went back and did more digging to formulate a case.
I am going back on no effort in solving there is definitely some sort of effort on furtive here.
I think the lack of going back on and doing a few things he said is still there if im being nitpicky like saying would go back to see Titus interactions instead just shooting down other theories by like theta or w/e

I feel like this game is more effort in solving than it should.

[Firebringer]

^^^ if im not clear im saying davesaz was putting in some amount of effort into sorting furtive.

I still don't like the slot but its not as scummy as I thought when I was going to do my iso dive,

[Enchant]

Firebringer scares me with effort really, that's so amazing, that's kinda suspicious.