Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]

[Big Chungus Gaming]

There are no complaints in those posts

"tecknickally its not a complaint even if its implied"

[Firebringer]

The duo would start an organization calling themselves Shadow Garden and begin recruiting by curing more of those afflicted by possession. All the while our hero thought the girls were just roleplaying with him.

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.12

Big Chungus Gaming [5][E-4]-T3, Cephrir, Penguinpower, SirCakez, Dunnstral
ssbm_Kyouko [3][E-6] - Gamma Emerald, jjh927, Save The Dragons,
Sir Cakez [2][E-7] - Alisae, Big Chungus Gaming
Save the Dragons [1][E-8] Sakura Hana
Dunnstral [1][E-8] - PookytheMagicalBear
T3 [1][E-8]- KawaiiKame,
Gamma Emerald [1][E-8] - Luka,
Penguinpower [1][E-8] - Whemestar


Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 2) : ssbm_Kyouko, Klick,

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-07 15:45:00)

Mod Note: STD has been prodded he has 24 hours to post. T3 is currently V/LA for 2 days. Sakura Hana is V/LA for next 3 days

[WhemeStar]

Ur a liar

[Big Chungus Gaming]

VC HERE Will get to these within next half hour.

ive been waiting since last year

[Luka]

I think I've been left off your list like 3 times now

pfp is to cute my judgement on u is clouded

[Luka]

Hey dunn and cakez I think they're onto our strategy of agreeing with each other. Let's try tripling down and do it even more, they won't expect that. Hail Whatever The Mafia Faction Is Called!

cakez had nothing to do with that read idk why youre bringing them into this
its almost like if I call you evil with anybody youre going to complain
can you try to solve to make me dissapate the read, or solve effectively. like case smtn idk

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Hey dunn and cakez I think they're onto our strategy of agreeing with each other. Let's try tripling down and do it even more, they won't expect that. Hail Whatever The Mafia Faction Is Called!

this is not a real argument against "your thought process is made up due to be being unexplained and not correlating to new developments" btw.

the argument that you have to be playing poorly as scum to be scum is not a good argument when, in fact, you could just be playing poorly due to the gamestate being stacked against you due to people finding eachother town and so on.

although I would counter that none of the people mentioned are a major wagon right now so that assertion is devoid of gamestate context.


it also ignores that I have, for all of the people you are trying to link to yourself - explored town plausible scenarios for all and presented them to some degree. Something you have not offered to anyone - the uncharatibility towards my play feels forced from your end due to the gross negligence of new info. I don't remember you being a person who does nooby tunnels in this manner.


All I can gather from you is that I'm scum because I supposedly changed my reads to fit who is FOSing me for manipulative reasons - something that those that are reading carefully - have noted is not the case at all. I did sandbag the early game. That was partially due to IRL circumstances and partially due to a lack of feeling of where I should be actively pushing towards at the time. I didn't feel like this was a PL where just pushing something random was necessary due to the abundance of people I am already familiar with and most of them being not more sortable by being pushed except for like Pooky who I found as town without needing to push them.


And lets put forth the scenario where I am scum and you are town, and I will explain why your play, in this case, is completely ineffective against me: Your refusal to engage at my level of discussion only makes you look worse objectively. It only makes me look better and have better cred and with the right kill or 2 will completely ruin your ability to swing the game to get them to kill me within a reasonable time frame before I can manipulate the gamestate to be as unsolvable as possible in the late game. You should be happy to engage to to see what I might spew, to see if you might be wrong, to see what I might do.

But instead it seems - to me - that your objective seems to be just to gain an elimination here and not provide much of your own thought process, or holistic view. When a good portion of the rest of the PL has to some extent laid out this process on the table - it means, at least to me, that by default you have to be mafia here.

If its not clear from how I spoke about Dunn in my last series of posts about him - I am at least, objectively, looking to appear to be genuinely solving people by considering different scenarios and contexts - something that shuts down your narrative that I just scumread people who scumread me. Frankly, it doesn't matter because scum can choose to push 1 player collectively. I don't need to have a bottom 4 of a mixed group, while its unlikely statistically, it is not *impossible* statistically. T3 I have maintained a steady townread on - and only slightly dropped them because of others' paranoia of them, which I tend to look to sheep when people have better recent experiences with a player. I personally have a poor record of reading T3 so I prefer to outsource my read if possible while still attempting in good faith to do it myself. PP was null for me having not displayed much of anything resembling a thought process until voting me - which was clear to be a push he personally supported rather than just wagons he was joining. Cakez was low in my reads well before he spoke about my slot and was a reaction to how he treated Pooky. Dunn was a townread early on due to familiarity with his playstyle and dropped due to feeling he was not reaching a BoP. This was later remedied when I reestablished a baseline for his play - which did not take into account he is not a social reads type of player but moreso a mech read player. And you? You have not given a take I felt has been more than surface level this entire game and when prodded to provide more repeatedly, you have given nothing of value. So, frankly, please stop giving excuses because its an insult to all of our intelligences and no one is buying your crap at this point.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

I think I've been left off your list like 3 times now

pfp is to cute my judgement on u is clouded

u tr me, i have 100% readrate on this player across both alignments in like 10 games, u can just trust me ez

[Big Chungus Gaming]

kyouko kinda has like "robot" syndrome when scum i feel iirc and thats kinda roughly how I judge her play.

[Luka]

kyouko kinda has like "robot" syndrome when scum i feel iirc and thats kinda roughly how I judge her play.

oh those players arre funny
okay yeah theyre town then

[WhemeStar]

Luka wanna do pp with me

[Luka]

Luka wanna do pp with me

no I remember them being townie
I actually dont remember anything im njsut going off my read lists

[Cephrir]

Mafiascum Eliminate Scum That Knows How To Post Lots Of Words Challenge (Impossible)

[Sakura Hana]

Happy New Year!

[T3]

Mafiascum Eliminate Scum That Knows How To Post Lots Of Words Challenge (Impossible)

call me crazy but 50% of eliminations are entirely based on vibes with people making up logic post-hoc to justify it

[Luka]

Mafiascum Eliminate Scum That Knows How To Post Lots Of Words Challenge (Impossible)

Top wagon is literally somebody who
1. Just posted a wall post
2. Youre voting
This is not a real thought lol

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Mafiascum Eliminate Scum That Knows How To Post Lots Of Words Challenge (Impossible)

Top wagon is literally somebody who
1. Just posted a wall post
2. Youre voting
This is not a real thought lol

I was also wagoned before I started making bigger posts lol

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Mafiascum Eliminate Scum That Knows How To Post Lots Of Words Challenge (Impossible)

call me crazy but 50% of eliminations are entirely based on vibes with people making up logic post-hoc to justify it

is this a cop out of reevaluating the new content you missed?

[T3]

Mafiascum Eliminate Scum That Knows How To Post Lots Of Words Challenge (Impossible)

call me crazy but 50% of eliminations are entirely based on vibes with people making up logic post-hoc to justify it

is this a cop out of reevaluating the new content you missed?

it is 2:16 am and I’m in the bathroom at a new year’s party. My time to read the content I missed/didn’t analyze will come

[Gamma Emerald]

[Big Chungus, Luka, Pooky, Alisae, Whemestar] <- Confident Towns
[Sakura, Penguin, Klick] <- Second Tier Towns
[JJH, Save the Dragons]] <- Above Null
[Ceph, T3] <- Null
{Dunnstural, Kaiwaii} <- Scum Lean
[Gamma, Cakez] <- Scums

Gamma Cepheral Dunnstural Cakez is looking very funny rn
Fairly certain top 2 tiers are pure

The Kool aid tastes off to me bro

Why is gamma even on this meme team that's circulating

Hey dunn and cakez I think they're onto our strategy of agreeing with each other. Let's try tripling down and do it even more, they won't expect that. Hail Whatever The Mafia Faction Is Called!

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: cephrir
I feel like this is a decently scumread player with little motion to actually start anything there, I’m changing that

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Mafiascum Eliminate Scum That Knows How To Post Lots Of Words Challenge (Impossible)

call me crazy but 50% of eliminations are entirely based on vibes with people making up logic post-hoc to justify it

is this a cop out of reevaluating the new content you missed?

it is 2:16 am and I’m in the bathroom at a new year’s party. My time to read the content I missed/didn’t analyze will come

oh yeah ur like an actual adult now, hf

[Big Chungus Gaming]

VOTE: cephrir
I feel like this is a decently scumread player with little motion to actually start anything there, I’m changing that

VOTE: cephrir

we will see how fast the actual explanations start rolling in

[PenguinPower]

I think I've been left off your list like 3 times now

[jjh927]

UNVOTE:

Fwiw Cephrir also is a wagon with notional support from me but give me a bit of post-new-years time to get my shit together and look at the 4 or so slots I am conflicted on.