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Post Post #3675 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:54 pm

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Kicking the tires, oops didn't realize so many votes. Yeah that's scummy af, have we talked about that?
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Post Post #3676 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:00 pm

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In post 2265, Titus wrote: I'm actually leading Hu Tao town and scum were equally divided on our wagons.
In post 2266, Titus wrote:
In post 2253, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1320, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1275, Titus wrote: VOTE: Hu Tao
Scum took the bait

VOTE: Titus
In post 1321, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1296, Titus wrote: I'm conflicted. Hu Tao not giving reads is scummy but I'm really wanting wagons.
This is scum.
It makes a bit of sense that Hu Tao would think it was a bait as it was Hu Tao's plan. However to sheep it with no understanding is off to me. Particularly when I don't like readless gamestates as a player generally. I like players that take a stand for VCA.
this was when Titus had 7 votes just prior to Hu Tao and gob starting a counter wagon on python because python kept trying to question Hu Tao's vote on Titus without reasoning
it doesn't feel like something scum would say to a teammate - it would be like a tacit approval of a scum buddy relieving pressure of you but in way that unnecessarily draws attention
it feels more like something scum!Titus would say while under pressure to justify her inauthentic read on Hu Tao since he already knows Hu Tao's town
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Post Post #3677 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:01 pm

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are we going to get a hua toa replacement btw. Or can a legit scum strategy be just to get players to replace out for mod kills or something lol
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Post Post #3678 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:04 pm

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In post 3044, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3043, Gamma Emerald wrote: Drew can die any time
What motivation would I have to push you as scum?

There are more viable mislim options.
Mixed feelings about noting this. I generally don't think scumslips are a thing, but at the same time the language here has a subtle implication that Drew is conceding knowing Gamma is town.

I get that it's kinda an implied "if you're town why would I as scum push to mislim ..." but is leaving out the implied parts revealing?
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Post Post #3679 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:05 pm

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In post 3677, Firebringer wrote: are we going to get a hua toa replacement btw. Or can a legit scum strategy be just to get players to replace out for mod kills or something lol
Let's not discuss OGI type things. Motivation for replacement is basically a forbidden subject nowadays.
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Post Post #3680 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:06 pm

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I was making a joke
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Post Post #3681 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:07 pm

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i been wondering when we would get hu tao's replacement
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Post Post #3682 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:08 pm

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^ mod please ban this player
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Post Post #3683 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:09 pm

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@davesaz, I had an assignment for Drew at the start of this day phase, what would you rate his performance?
In post 2755, yessiree wrote: I wanna turbo lim Drew, but only thing that's holding me back is how towny Black was.
In post 2760, yessiree wrote:
In post 2756, Bellaphant wrote: Why?
Not reading

Defending Titus while not reading

Being dismissive towards people who were pushing for Titus
In post 2796, yessiree wrote: Clearing drew is a mistake here

But like I said I don't wanna go after him right now

He better start drewing it up tho
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Post Post #3684 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:11 pm

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In post 3682, Firebringer wrote: ^ mod please ban this player
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Post Post #3685 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:12 pm

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Drew is another player I usually scumread instinctively. This time it might be justified despite my TR on Black that went beyond it being my pred's n0.
I was about to ask if y'all had any feedback on my page bottom and top.
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Post Post #3686 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:13 pm

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ur analysis on votes hasn't yielded anything i think is useful for talking about tbh. But I don't see the point in complaining about it so ive just been quietly letting u do ur thing
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Post Post #3687 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:15 pm

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like i think if u use the votes, and tell me a story of what is going on with what people are doing with those votes individually. Great, love it. Good stuff we can talk for days about what we think people are doing on those wagons and the motivations behind it if its right or not.

But all i get from ur posting of analysis is a lot of data noise that makes my brain shut off
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Post Post #3688 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:16 pm

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3675 is more than that. Look at the posts linked near the end of 3674.
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Post Post #3689 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:19 pm

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In post 3670, Firebringer wrote: idk that analysis makes me feel its more likely that Hua Tao could have been bussing and Titus wanted to make it look like a T/S
You're receptive to yess doing almost the same thing in a static manner using only the official VCs. I think the static look is susceptible to inaccuracy from using only those specific points in time, so I want to use the movement or flow of votes.
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Post Post #3690 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:19 pm

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I think drew not wanting to end the day and wanting to just pressure titus was pretty clear from the game events happening at the time. This was one of my arguments with him when I was trying to push Titus to get more votes and his adamant refusal to rush the day. So....yeah don't see that as scummy. His actions/mindset seem pretty clear and not scummy to me.
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Post Post #3691 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:20 pm

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It's getting late on a work night.
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Post Post #3692 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:22 pm

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In post 3689, davesaz wrote:
In post 3670, Firebringer wrote: idk that analysis makes me feel its more likely that Hua Tao could have been bussing and Titus wanted to make it look like a T/S
You're receptive to yess doing almost the same thing in a static manner using only the official VCs. I think the static look is susceptible to inaccuracy from using only those specific points in time, so I want to use the movement or flow of votes.
i reject post 3670 from past firebringer. It was a bad post and analysis. yessiree did a better counter to me just looking at a VCA and making shit up in my head did.

also i wouldn't say i was receptive to yess there, if anything I was arguing against him.
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Post Post #3693 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:23 pm

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In post 3670, Firebringer wrote: idk that analysis makes me feel its more likely that Hua Tao could have been bussing and Titus wanted to make it look like a T/S
bad firebringer don't be using vca to make shit up. If ur going to do this go back to hua tao votes and see the context for it. Bad bad bad boy
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Post Post #3694 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:23 pm

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In post 3685, davesaz wrote: Drew is another player I usually scumread instinctively. This time it might be justified despite my TR on Black that went beyond it being my pred's n0.
I was also hard TRing Black but i can't pinpoint it to something specific, i did have a scum ping tho early RVS when she chainsawed me during my push on Gamma, but after that the way she was interacting with everybody made me think she couldn't possibly be scum, but there is a possibility i was somehow pocketed after she started defending me

it's plausible Black was just having a pretty good power wolfing game before replacing out, which i specifically wont discuss
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Post Post #3695 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:28 pm

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yessiree im actually the second cop in this game and I have an innocent on you. Just now.
Alisae just sent me the pm.

Congrats ur confirmed.

Who should I check tonight?
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Post Post #3696 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:31 pm

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you should check Mueh to make sure DE70 didn't pull any shenanigans on us ya know what im sayin
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Post Post #3697 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:32 pm

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dragoneater would forget his n0. Good point
forgot his reads so often why wouldn't he misread or forget what his real n0 was
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Post Post #3698 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:36 pm

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okay but seriously i want a name. I am going to deep dive someone once we get to weekend. as my last big effort post of this game day.

I will analyze person from interactions with Titus wagon, there posting in general, and any associations they could have and anti associations with others. I call it a mega dive.

Super high effort promise post even though less than 7 hours ago im like i give up. Amazing how inconsistent i am.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3699 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:39 pm

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ohh this game day ends in 3 days. Okay it will be a post I prepare for tomorrow cause like hell i am lucky enough to actually die in this game.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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