Don't like this not just because it's on me. We have a confessed person who doesn't have our wincon. I don't get why you'd unvote DV here.
It sounds like we can potentially work with DV to get information that does help our wincon though?
DV is claiming a third party that likely doesn't exist. There is one third party according to the setup. Unless scum can convert, he's the one doing it with a fake claim.
I could see them both existing I think.
Yours passively gives information about scum, not even really about conversions.
DV directly can give us information about the speed people are being converted.
In post 50, Radical Rat wrote:
Giving scum more information is kind of a necessity to give Town information, so I don't see your point. It is important to regulate what that information is of course, but my personal opinion is that revealing names is likely to be worth the tradeoff.
The names don't give any real hints about role, and while it is possible that talking about this could cause people to slip that names are relevant to their role, even that doesn't give any insight into what the role actually IS, and since we're in role madness scum already know we're all PRs anyway, so... I'm not really worried about that part of it.
The part that is potentially a concern is giving scum more accuracy in their actions, particularly if Theta's correct about recruitment being tied to names, though honestly even that isn't strictly a negative imo.
Ultimately, I think it's probably worth it, but there is potential for it to go wrong, so if people don't want to take the chance we don't have to.
This is kinda true but some information is the kind scum already has, so that is the information you probably want more of, to equalize information
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 118, Doctor Drew wrote:
One thing is for sure, I definitely have nothing to do with any cult, not me......ever.....for reals....end of story.....period.
Do we know Mafia have multitasking?
I don't even know if Mafia is an appropriate term for the "informed minority" faction in this game, let alone whether they can multitask. XD
It's certainly not a Normal game so it doesn't need to be announced. Probably not even any way of knowing during the game, really, unless we start seeing flips that specify they can multitask. But I'd be kind of surprised to see that.
Solid post imo
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
this does not help any town prs that require real names to target but assuming there are not many of them might be good to keep real name hidden so that cult can accidentally hit you
same with flavor leaf
O.o...you think no town interact with the very mechanic this is based off of? Really.
i think it is more useful for us for scum to potentially fail conversions then it is harmful for a few town to potentially fail abilities
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 390, DeasVail wrote:
I have two potential methods of winning. Either:
- I identify the real names of anyone who targeted me the previous night, or;
- immediately upon my elimination I correctly identify the number of people who have been converted (which I thought I could achieve by just being eliminated day 1 and guessing zero, but I misinterpreted and it’s only after the first night that that counts)
I also can be publicly confirmed as the host of the reunion if need be but that makes me immune to eliminations the following day, so I didn’t really want to do that unless asked.
I have a night action where I can visit someone and learn their real name. They will get notification of being visited but not that it was me specifically.
It’s weird and I’ve been out of sorts working out what to even do with myself this game.
this is very compatible with town actually so i do not think you should ever be eliminated
honestly up to you what you do though
if other town allowed it then someone with a low power action could hand you a win later on by just telling you their real name and then targeting you that night
or at your request we could elim you and you can try to guess number of conversions instead
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 391, Radical Rat wrote:
Well, I personally am fine with you sticking around for now, claim seems believable enough, and identifying the number of conversions means helping us find cult's in your best interest.
Yeah I think I agree.
Limming Deas on a later day could also help us figure out the speed conversions are happening at the very least?
If the theory about scum using real names for conversions is correct, then having my real name out there as a decoy is also probably not a bad thing
Scum would know not to use your name and have narrowed down list to use, though
it is the sort of vote that says i do not have any good scum reads and it is the end of the day so
i am coming to the conclusion that scum is probably just lurking
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
I think you tried to throw out shade to follow up with a fake scum read later so that you can push someone at the end of your catchup
I don't buy that you think reading comprehension is TMI and I don't buy that you were interested if I explained my reasoning later, because if you were you could just read my ISO and look at the surrounding posts for context.
I don't really like this pushback on Thomith. First thought was that Roden might be trying to push a counter wagon to get pressure off DV but from DV's claim it seems they're not partnered.
I'm confused about that role, need to look closer when I've got a few minutes.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
i mean hey if there is a kill tonight we just eliminate them tomorrow
otherwise chances are they are telling the truth
also they claim to have an ability to confirm part of their role so
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
we are in one of two scenarios
either cult needs to have a flagbearer or similar such mechanic because otherwise we cannot catch up with only one elimination a day
or we have to have either an unrecruitable sk or a vig to allow more kills to happen so that we can catch up with cult
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
there is enough unrecruitables that cult cannot guarantee a recruit every day/night cycle
or uh
or their factional ability is non-consecutive but i do not know if i have ever seen that before in a game
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
