There is a world where celeb is scum PR and thats how he knew he was RBed.In post 1972, Naerys wrote:Me: Hu Tao is genuinely trying to solveIn post 1971, Hu Tao wrote: It's certain one of the pr is scum imo. We should be voting there.
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Thom jailkept Celebloki and Cele himself said he was blocked even before Thom claimed, i believe.
I think this rather strongly indicates that both are town.
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In post 1974, Naerys wrote: I think he should have claimed it earlier, now it does look opportunistic. I recently rolled as 1-shot bulletproof town so i know this claim will always get some suspiction. I am inclined to believe it for now.thomith could be a court jester
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Fucking accidental posting. Ignore that.thomith could be a court jester
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If you are correct, that means there are 2 in the VT claims, which makes it the same odds either way?In post 1971, Hu Tao wrote: It's certain one of the pr is scum imo. We should be voting there.thomith could be a court jester
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If you believe Town has a Neap, RC, and JK though, does also having a 1-shot BP make sense for town? If anything he's now setup for the case that if I check him and get a negative, he's at least not lied. Any goons that claimed VT are now sweating that I can catch them in a lie.-
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I'll be honest, my gut when celeb claimed RBed N1 pinged that i thought he was town, which is why I tried to kind of soft claim with how hard i believed him when he was RBed.
I think I'm inclined to believe him here for now, even despite the fact I feel a bit off about RC/Neap existing together.thomith could be a court jester
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In post 1957, Flavor Leaf wrote: okay, gonna sleep.
roden/hu tao/naerys
bingle/elements/dunnstral
are my two splits. mix and match one maybe, but that's where im at.
If Roden is scum I can maybe see the first one because of subtle defending like 1958
I'm still struggling to get over my Hu Tao townread though hm.thomith could be a court jester
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Because I scum read Hu Tao almost every game and I thought she looked townier after Gob's town flip.In post 1965, Thomith wrote:
Rigt, makes sense.In post 1964, Hu Tao wrote: Because I thought he softed an innocent. And both of your claims check out. Unless you're scum together idk
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Would you be willing to fade Naerys today?In post 1979, Celebloki wrote: If you believe Town has a Neap, RC, and JK though, does also having a 1-shot BP make sense for town? If anything he's now setup for the case that if I check him and get a negative, he's at least not lied. Any goons that claimed VT are now sweating that I can catch them in a lie.thomith could be a court jester
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It's gonna be dumb if I get voted out for defending my town reads-
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If the Roden/Naerys/Hu Tao solve is real, I'm wondering if there's a world where Roden/Hu Tao are trying to distance now, to try and set Hu Tao up to deep wolf.
Kinda wanna relook at the interactions throughout the game to see if these interactions are new.thomith could be a court jester
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I'm still on Elements for now I'm just tinfoiling right now in case we're wrong and go to ELo tbh.In post 1986, Roden wrote: Why are we not flipping Bingle or Elements
Wanna go through the options.thomith could be a court jester
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role cop+jk feels like not enough for town thoIn post 1975, Thomith wrote:
There is a world where celeb is scum PR and thats how he knew he was RBed.In post 1972, Naerys wrote:
Me: Hu Tao is genuinely trying to solveIn post 1971, Hu Tao wrote: It's certain one of the pr is scum imo. We should be voting there.
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Thom jailkept Celebloki and Cele himself said he was blocked even before Thom claimed, i believe.
I think this rather strongly indicates that both are town.
atleast one of neap/bulletproof claim is true i think-
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I feel like it's obvious that I'm not scum here and that I'm being honest about my claim
I've been pushing Celeb as scum for awhile, if I were actually scum pushing a town PR and Hu Tao made it clear that she thought someone softed an inno on her, then I was already set up to fake claim a PR equivalent to Neap so I could counter claim Celeb
What's the use in claiming BP when I had the trajectory to feasibly counter claim Celeb and get him voted out without having to use a NK to get rid of him-
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In post 1967, Bingle wrote:
Why? Bp is an incredibly convenient claim AFTER a ev dies. No one can guilty him, there’s no reason he would ever die at night and he didn’t share that he was a potential rc inno when the rc could have, yknow, made a bulletproof IC.In post 1949, Naerys wrote: If FL wasnt 10000% town i would sus him for suspecting claimed bulletproof
???In post 1968, Bingle wrote:Rc not ev.
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WIthout a Vig 1SBP seems weird for scum to have for a Simple though imo.thomith could be a court jester
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BP literally isn't supposed to claim early, their primary use is to draw the NK and give other town PRs an extra night to act-
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How so?In post 1992, Thomith wrote: WIthout a Vig 1SBP seems weird for scum to have for a Simple though imo.-
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Or to force scum to try to lim the bulletproof. I did use it that way.In post 1993, Roden wrote: BP literally isn't supposed to claim early, their primary use is to draw the NK and give other town PRs an extra night to act-
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"You are playing a Simple Normal game. These games are designed to provide a newbie-friendly and traditional mafia experience, with little focus on setup speculation."In post 1994, Roden wrote:
How so?In post 1992, Thomith wrote: WIthout a Vig 1SBP seems weird for scum to have for a Simple though imo.
I feel like Scum 1SBP without a Vig feels weird because of that? It's technically simple sure, but I feel it opens scum up to the setup spec of "there must be a vig"thomith could be a court jester
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I would agree that why add a scum 1-shot BP if town has no way to take a shot at the scum 1-shot BP. That said, in this setup, an RC finding a BP is essentially a town clear.-
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Right now, I either think all 4 pr’s are town, or Roden is scum PR, not BP.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Yeah, to clarify my point, I'm agreeing that the 1-shot BP is a convenient claim that is likely a lie. I suspect he is the liar in the PR claims and doubt town has all 4 of the claimed PRs as they stand.
For the setup theorist nerds, what is the balance likelihood that Thom could be a Scum JK/RB?
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