Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]

[ssbm_Kyouko]

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[Klick]

VOTE: Alisae

I have no real read on Peng or jjh and I think that limming Alisae is strictly better for town’s EV

I expect em to to be more beneficial as town than e would be hard to catch as scum

Another solid way of putting it yes

[Gamma Emerald]

These are what I'm referring to with Gamma

Spoiler: the quotes

btw gun to head if competent players haven't TR'd Gamma yet then she probably is just a wolf.
I remember Gamma being like super easy to TR when she's town so.

I hate everything about this read
How about you don’t hide behind some third-rate BoP technobabble and actually give a real opinion?

what are you going to do
vote me

viewtopic.php?t=91760 here gamma was very easy to tr early

Shut the fuck up, you don’t get to claim you correctly TRed me in that game after your meltdown in reaction to being wagoned

what are you going to do
vote me

Maybe
Depends on how I feel at the end of this

cry about it

nothing u say is going to make me actually give a fuck to play, I play on my own time, sorry.

I'm too town for elim and I don't even have to try hard to do it

VOTE: alisae
this feels like a possible scum play and I just fucking hate your guts rn so you exiting the game is an improvement

I'm too town for elim and I don't even have to try hard to do it

fucking bet

I have minimal tolerance for players approaching me in bad faith

Hate is a strong word

your point being? Alisae’s read on me is absolutely trash-tier, he knows it, and is avoiding addressing the real issues by stating “I play on my own time”.
You even said your vote on me would be removed when Alisae said to, so you are the exact reason why that garbage needs to be called out.

Maybe the reason I lack conviction is I have seen Alisae openly play in bad faith so I see getting rid of em as a “cleaning up” measure. Have you tried considering that?

I'll think about this - as I recall there was a town game of yours I read in that recent meta dive where Alisae was the subject of your ire

I believe I've openly referenced it in this game, yes

[Big Chungus Gaming]

On one hand we have a lurker who may or may not contribute on later days and an easily sortable good player who is lurking for unknown reasons

On the other hand we have a player with poorly thought out reads and who is unwilling to compromise whose future contributions will invariably disrupt the gamestate and make it difficult to solve

Someone please give me a good reason for not voting Alisae that isn’t “uh um good vibes”

Town!Alisae is a large asset who will contribute more positively later on than you are giving credit for

That combined with said 'good vibes' makes me resistant to an Alisae push

Idt it's town alisae atp but it's true she's not the play this day phase but I think she needs more scrutiny as time goes on and there's evidence for her to work with if town.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

General takes here
I think the people making commentary on my meta are poorly informed
I really don't feel like town!Alisae votes me without a confident read
Without going back to look, I think Pooky is playing very similarly to gng upick and that's why I would consider him to be hard town here.
I don't think I have a second interesting enough read in isolation for Klick's request at the present time. 'Interesting' is the qualifier though. Tonight, when I am no longer phoneposting in response to an email ping, I'll make a proper readslist and Klick or anyone else can quiz me on something I guess.
Out of my wagon, I'm confident Klick and Wheme are town and a bit optimistic that STD is town and maybe actually readable, but I've had an eye on Cephrir for basically the whole phase, PP could easily be scum, and I've already mentioned Alisae
I'll put down a vote when I centre myself with a readlist

This mirrors my thoughts almost entirely.
But also I'm assuming I'm the exception wrt the meta comment

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Someone please give me a good reason for not voting Alisae that isn’t “uh um good vibes”

bussing is bad and alisae hates it

[Luka]

Someone please give me a good reason for not voting Alisae that isn’t “uh um good vibes”

I love how this post implies uh um good vibes is a good reason

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: dunn

[Klick]

I did a project during my lunch break of making my reads much more binary and seeing what my PoE looked like and Alisae was in 'potential scum' territory
But I still don't think it's that likely and I'd rather go for Ali later even if e is wolf

[Alisae]

And if I’m mafia I’ll just shoot Klick kekw

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Dunn

[Klick]

I want to sheep/consensus with Ali/jjh today I think
Looking forward to seeing you later jjh

[Alisae]

I want jjh to post and I’m mostly just using my vote to express that.
I still think cakez is mafia and probably see myself switching there in a heartbeat

[Klick]

I'd sheep you onto Cakez if you weren't happy with Dunn or Gamma or Penguin or yourself

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@Gamma I'm just going to need the name of a game you were town and got mad at Alisae's bad faith play I don't have time to run it down
As for my vote toDay it doesn't look like Gamma or Cakez will be it so I'll probably just join some TRs on a wagon that I don't TR

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Alisae, Wheme, Luka, Klick, Sakura - wherever the majority of these go I'll probably go as long as it's not on one of them or on KK, preferably not Cephrir but I'm willing to accept my reasoning for jjh is not strong enough to take him off the table for D1 "compromise" type voting

[ssbm_Kyouko]

obviously there aren't only 5 other townies in this game but I don't like that my highest TRs are split up and that my highest SRs are voting for my middle-of-the-pack reads. I feel like I'm going to end up compromising on town toDay

[ssbm_Kyouko]

VOTE: Cakez

[Sakura Hana]

Alisae, Wheme, Luka, Klick, Sakura - wherever the majority of these go I'll probably go as long as it's not on one of them or on KK, preferably not Cephrir but I'm willing to accept my reasoning for jjh is not strong enough to take him off the table for D1 "compromise" type voting

I personally find 1557 a very compelling and strong argument for the ellitell working on Dunn

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.19

jjh927 [6][E-3] - Alisae, Cephrir, Klick, Whemestar, Save The Dragons, Penguinpower,
Dunnstral [3][E-6] - PookytheMagicalBear, Luka, Sakura Hana,
Alisae [3][E-6] - SirCakez, KawaiiKame, T3,
PenguinPower [2][E-7]- Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald,
Gamma Emerald [2][E-7] - ssbm_Kyouko, Big Chungus Gaming,

Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : jjh927,

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-07 15:45:00)

Mod Note: jjh927 has been prodded

First 4 on the jjh wagon seem pure. STD maybe pure, PP questionable. With plurality in effect, voting him now won't even mean that scum need to hammer him and incriminate themselves unfortunately.
Dunn - Luka and Sakura are here - not sure about Pooky in this game, but I feel better about jjh than Dunn and STD moved from jjh to Dunn recently, as did PP. Feel like STD and PP have been moving around together throughout the day, don't think scum would be that blatant all day even after they get called out on it. If Dunn is scum maybe one is bussing because it would look weird if they

didn't

vote Dunn atp
Alisae wagon is trash - idk why KK is voting there maybe I should look into that.
Gamma right now voting PP

with

Dunnstral, and I do agree that I don't really see the jjh wagon's merit beyond "lurker" - I could go around in circles with the WIFOM of it so I'll just leave this alone - though I already didn't think the jjh lim would be good.
BCG is just against the Dunn lim it looks like and so he was voting Gamma and now is voting PP, the counterwagon. This seems odd that he didn't vote jjh instead of Gamma maybe? Actually no, looking at the VC, Gamma's wagon was the leading wagon as Dunnstral's was picking up steam.

I kinda want to see what this brings tbh. scum!Dunn looks bad for BCG
VOTE: Dunnstral

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Alisae, Wheme, Luka, Klick, Sakura - wherever the majority of these go I'll probably go as long as it's not on one of them or on KK, preferably not Cephrir but I'm willing to accept my reasoning for jjh is not strong enough to take him off the table for D1 "compromise" type voting

really

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.19

jjh927 [6][E-3] - Alisae, Cephrir, Klick, Whemestar, Save The Dragons, Penguinpower,
Dunnstral [3][E-6] - PookytheMagicalBear, Luka, Sakura Hana,
Alisae [3][E-6] - SirCakez, KawaiiKame, T3,
PenguinPower [2][E-7]- Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald,
Gamma Emerald [2][E-7] - ssbm_Kyouko, Big Chungus Gaming,

Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : jjh927,

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-07 15:45:00)

Mod Note: jjh927 has been prodded

First 4 on the jjh wagon seem pure. STD maybe pure, PP questionable. With plurality in effect, voting him now won't even mean that scum need to hammer him and incriminate themselves unfortunately.
Dunn - Luka and Sakura are here - not sure about Pooky in this game, but I feel better about jjh than Dunn and STD moved from jjh to Dunn recently, as did PP. Feel like STD and PP have been moving around together throughout the day, don't think scum would be that blatant all day even after they get called out on it. If Dunn is scum maybe one is bussing because it would look weird if they

didn't

vote Dunn atp
Alisae wagon is trash - idk why KK is voting there maybe I should look into that.
Gamma right now voting PP

with

Dunnstral, and I do agree that I don't really see the jjh wagon's merit beyond "lurker" - I could go around in circles with the WIFOM of it so I'll just leave this alone - though I already didn't think the jjh lim would be good.
BCG is just against the Dunn lim it looks like and so he was voting Gamma and now is voting PP, the counterwagon. This seems odd that he didn't vote jjh instead of Gamma maybe? Actually no, looking at the VC, Gamma's wagon was the leading wagon as Dunnstral's was picking up steam.

I kinda want to see what this brings tbh. scum!Dunn looks bad for BCG
VOTE: Dunnstral

classic short term memory mafia player thinks dunn mafia looks bad for me

[Big Chungus Gaming]

objectively i am one of the most cleared players off dunn mafia but please keep pushing the silly surface level assumption that "defended them d1 so must be mafia"

stop using whos on the wagon and preflips to determine your reads

[Big Chungus Gaming]

but also i would atp put money on dunn flipping town so i hope you eat a heaping pile of crow for it bc it seems like thats the scum agenda wagon now

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Looks like 4 of my top 5 town say Dunn could be scum or have him in the bottom quarter/third of their readslist. Wheme is the one that thinks town!Dunn