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[Flavor Leaf]

scum probably left flavor alive cuz his reads are wrong

this is only true if DE is scum, though.

If DE is town, it's confirmed that scum tried to kill me 2 nights in a row.

[Flavor Leaf]

and which of my reads would be wrong, though?

I don't believe I have any read this game that I'm not considering a slot to be both scum or town.

This either means scum are actively trying to get rid of me and failing hard, or scum are trying to control where I end up, and the only one that I believe fits that bill is DragonEater.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also think overall my reads have been pretty great this game.

I didn't care one way about Kyouko alignment, was a means to an end to shoot correctly on Night 2 (which I did). I actively called Lap town.

Only wrong read I had this game was Abnegation, and even then, that was a misfade candidate that I got rid of.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Dragon's just been trying to control my vote and planning to deep wolf.

[Flavor Leaf]

Might have to look into Dragon and Gamma or Dragon and Geraint team.

I think Hu Tao is probably not aligned with Dragon, but i've been saying one of them are scum. And that's the pickle I'm in here right now.

[Pavowski]

scum probably left flavor alive cuz his reads are wrong

As he has said a few times now, Flavor has town-cased and scum-cased every player in the game at this point. If I were scum, I wouldn't put too much stock in what he's saying in the thread as a reason to keep him alive.

[Flavor Leaf]

I do think there is scum in Pavowski or HPE, though

I am gonna ask something surprising:

Why HPE?

[Flavor Leaf]

scum probably left flavor alive cuz his reads are wrong

As he has said a few times now, Flavor has town-cased and scum-cased every player in the game at this point. If I were scum, I wouldn't put too much stock in what he's saying in the thread as a reason to keep him alive.

Gamma even brought up how annoying that is for scum earlier, and Dragon is the one who is getting hit with it the most.

I'm actually kinda locking in with Dragon scum right now.

I think it's Dragon + 1 of CW, Gamma, Purple, Geraint

Pav and Hu Tao, in a Dragon scum world, are probably my don't touches.

If Dragon is town, it's like 90% Hu Tao + 1 of the other 4. But im leaning Dragon a lot harder than Hu Tao in this reread I'm doing.

[Pavowski]

Might have to look into Dragon and Gamma or Dragon and Geraint team.

I think Hu Tao is probably not aligned with Dragon, but i've been saying one of them are scum. And that's the pickle I'm in here right now.

I think Hu Tao is a better vote than Dragon right now, BUT voting Dragon *could* be a mechanically better play, as you could then shoot Hu Tao tonight if Dragon flips green, and it couldn't be stopped

Not saying I want to do that necessarily, just gaming it out

[Flavor Leaf]

Imagine a vigilante in this game shooting anybody but CW

I think cw started making sense later in the day though. But before then yes

Which quote of cw made sense to you?

Look at his iso. 457 and onward he started making sense

Kinda disagree since they've been mainly sheeping Kyouko on the horribly contrived scumcase on me

this doesn't hold up well at all now knowing Kyouko is town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Might have to look into Dragon and Gamma or Dragon and Geraint team.

I think Hu Tao is probably not aligned with Dragon, but i've been saying one of them are scum. And that's the pickle I'm in here right now.

I think Hu Tao is a better vote than Dragon right now, BUT voting Dragon *could* be a mechanically better play, as you could then shoot Hu Tao tonight if Dragon flips green, and it couldn't be stopped

Not saying I want to do that necessarily, just gaming it out

dragon just gonna jail me again

[cw357]

de/gamma/hu tao is my elim pool

[Pavowski]

I could be sold on scum!Purple, especially given recent play as I said earlier

I could also be sold on scum!CW, I think there's merit in the HPE/CW beef as s/s

That would leave out Dragon and Hu Tao, though

[Flavor Leaf]

oh thats what you were saying.


Idk.

Listen to the dead players.

Lap and Kyouko both made comments about Dragon being scum. Abnegation was getting edged to get pushed by DE (also me, but thats why I killed there).

I just think a lot of that shows that this game state setup was meant to help Dragon, the scum putting the most effort into the game.

[Pavowski]

Might have to look into Dragon and Gamma or Dragon and Geraint team.

I think Hu Tao is probably not aligned with Dragon, but i've been saying one of them are scum. And that's the pickle I'm in here right now.

I think Hu Tao is a better vote than Dragon right now, BUT

voting Dragon *could* be a mechanically better play, as you could then shoot Hu Tao tonight if Dragon flips green, and it couldn't be stopped

Not saying I want to do that necessarily, just gaming it out

dragon just gonna jail me again

Not if we yeet him off the building

[Flavor Leaf]

I could be sold on scum!Purple, especially given recent play as I said earlier

I could also be sold on scum!CW, I think there's merit in the HPE/CW beef as s/s

That would leave out Dragon and Hu Tao, though

i agree with merit in HPE/CW potential beef.

That being said, I think CW since Day 2 has been spitting pure genuineness, even at the extent of being ridiculous.

And I actually think based on the way DE and CW reacted to my vig, they arent scum together here (also CW push on DE)

VOTE: DragonEater

I'm willing to take this day to stop DE. I've been trying to die frankly, because I can completely tell scum are actively trying to work me.

[Flavor Leaf]

de/gamma/hu tao is my elim pool

this is a good lim pool.

[Flavor Leaf]

are scum by default multitasking in Simple games?

[Pavowski]

Presumably if we limmed Dragon and you die tonight, we'd be in mountainous from there out right? With hopefully 1 scum left to find out of ... what ... we'd have 5 alive tomorrow?

Shit if Dragon is scum and you shoot true the game could end tonight

[Flavor Leaf]

Presumably if we limmed Dragon and you die tonight, we'd be in mountainous from there out right? With hopefully 1 scum left to find out of ... what ... we'd have 5 alive tomorrow?

Shit if Dragon is scum and you shoot true the game could end tonight

yeah, that's a big reason why I think this is probably the right play.

Tomorrow, worst case scenario, is 3-2, all mountainous (unless DE isn't the scum PR and it was a fake claim, but regardless, it wouldnt matter, i think they are the SCUM PR if scum.)

And I think that's solid.

And then at the very least, you get to play the game without Dragon/FL duo, which will open up gamestate a lot.

[Flavor Leaf]

i just think this second night was very anti town to block me, and only preserves scum.

I wanted to die, and I'd have at least taken out another slot with me that opens the game up more.

[Flavor Leaf]

I still don't get what I'd be scared of as scum? As scum I would just say "cool I can continue sheeping Flavor" and know that you are pocketed

I thought about shooting you

Hmm I'd be down to be shot

I have a self confirming role
VOTE: cw

I also stand by this not being a 'self confirming role', and this was said to help get through this day phase.

[Pavowski]

Presumably if we limmed Dragon and you die tonight, we'd be in mountainous from there out right? With hopefully 1 scum left to find out of ... what ... we'd have 5 alive tomorrow?

Shit if Dragon is scum and you shoot true the game could end tonight

yeah, that's a big reason why I think this is probably the right play.

Tomorrow, worst case scenario, is 3-2, all mountainous (unless DE isn't the scum PR and it was a fake claim, but regardless, it wouldnt matter, i think they are the SCUM PR if scum.)

And I think that's solid.

And then at the very least, you get to play the game without Dragon/FL duo, which will open up gamestate a lot.

If DE's claim is a fake claim at this point my brain is gonna break into itty bitty pieces

[Pavowski]

Presumably if we limmed Dragon and you die tonight, we'd be in mountainous from there out right? With hopefully 1 scum left to find out of ... what ... we'd have 5 alive tomorrow?

Shit if Dragon is scum and you shoot true the game could end tonight

yeah, that's a big reason why I think this is probably the right play.

Tomorrow, worst case scenario, is 3-2, all mountainous (unless DE isn't the scum PR and it was a fake claim, but regardless, it wouldnt matter, i think they are the SCUM PR if scum.)

And I think that's solid.

And then at the very least, you get to play the game without Dragon/FL duo, which will open up gamestate a lot.

If DE's claim is a fake claim at this point my brain is gonna break into itty bitty pieces

[Flavor Leaf]

I think there's a strong case against all of DE/HPE/Flavor but flavor's is so glaringly obvious + this whole claiming situation

I think this is too on the nose to have CW as scum with the two of them. The fact cw got turned to me here before flipping to DE mainly and tunneling is a good sign for CW town in a DE scum world.