Open 899 - The Pizza Kids Coalition [Game Over]

[Klick]

Alright Klick

I have an idea

You said your hard PoE is Kyo/T3/implo

What do you say about a coal of dragon/app/el/dv/ydra?

Then I won't have the paranoia about you and I am even going to as far as to say I will town lock you if it fails, if it's any consolation.

Pedit: no Klick is just too towny I can't resist having him in the coalition

I'd accept it though obviously I'd prefer being in it myself
What's your current thoughts on Ydrasse

[Klick]

Okay

Klick I don't want a reason to think you are town. Can you give me a reason why I should just have faith in our coalition (including DV)?

Work now sorry, can respons later

[DragonEater70]

Alright Klick

I have an idea

You said your hard PoE is Kyo/T3/implo

What do you say about a coal of dragon/app/el/dv/ydra?

Then I won't have the paranoia about you and I am even going to as far as to say I will town lock you if it fails, if it's any consolation.

Pedit: no Klick is just too towny I can't resist having him in the coalition

I'd accept it though obviously I'd prefer being in it myself
What's your current thoughts on Ydrasse

Can you vote for it?

My thoughts on Ydra are "meh I don't think she'd post the vote you just quoted last page as scum"

[implosion]

Hmmmm explain

i mean my ideal coalition would be that - appearance + me but that's clearly not viable and it's probably not a good idea anyway because if it failed i'd be immediately limmed.

i don't really know what else there is to explain. I have very mixed feelings on both of kyouko and T3 (in T3's case i think his posting has been kind of town but also there's just not enough of it/not enough content in it, i think i've explained kyouko) and i think excluding the three of us is a perfectly fine starting point given that people are suspicious of the 3 of us as possible teams and those teams become impossible if the coalition fails. I think out of the other 6, dv/appearance are broadly the least townish

[implosion]

i think if i were to pick my in this exact moment most likely coalition to pass it'd be me/klick/ydrasse/elements/(one of dragon or kyouko). or maybe both of dragon and kyouko but minus ydrasse. not sure, i'm tired and am going to sleep

[DragonEater70]

Hmmmm explain

i mean my ideal coalition would be that - appearance + me but that's clearly not viable and it's probably not a good idea anyway because if it failed i'd be immediately limmed.

i don't really know what else there is to explain. I have very mixed feelings on both of kyouko and T3 (in T3's case i think his posting has been kind of town but also there's just not enough of it/not enough content in it, i think i've explained kyouko) and i think excluding the three of us is a perfectly fine starting point given that people are suspicious of the 3 of us as possible teams and those teams become impossible if the coalition fails. I think out of the other 6, dv/appearance are broadly the least townish

Why do you TR me?

[DragonEater70]

i think if i were to pick my in this exact moment most likely coalition to pass it'd be me/klick/ydrasse/elements/(one of dragon or kyouko). or maybe both of dragon and kyouko but minus ydrasse. not sure, i'm tired and am going to sleep

How does this track with your last post

[DragonEater70]

Actually nvm I get it

[Appearance]

it looks like the version of the coalition with me is prevailing.

[Appearance]

HURT: all
HEAL: elements, dragon, klick, dv, appearance

[DeasVail]

I am going to keep my vote as it is currently for now but will be around to vote for something else if need be.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

HEAL: Appearance

I feel like this is the 'less bad' choice over T3 - I'm open to change Appearance for Klick if I need for the deadline, but I don't want to include DV.

That makes my coalition (Kyouko, DE, Elements, Ydrasse, Appearance)

I should have time for a full response to 499 today, but I've been more busy than usual with work this morning. I'll need to look at DV's posts about SRing implosion before he "also thought" with Dragon. I know I didnt check specifically at the time of writing, I was just reading his ISO and might not have noticed it preceding that comment. I did check with the Elements one because he said it happened a long time ago so I was more thorough in looking for evidence of that.

I do think I've been clear that I'm accounting for DV and Klick knowing each other well - that's why I'm not sure if I think Klick is actually your partner or just pocketed/snowed

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm around another 6 hours or so during work and can probably pop in once or twice more.after that hit before deadline

[ssbm_Kyouko]

After that but* before deadline

[Ydrasse]

i didnt deserve a ping and will be speaking to the authorities

[Ydrasse]

so the bad thing is is that i don't particularly think that implo or kyouko are posting like wolves right now. like kyouko maybe a bit i guess in that she is very against the grain and it's a necessity if the coalition that's gonna pass atm is all town but she feels very motivated in a way i don't think a wolf about to die is. if she is one i feel she would have the like... cognizance to know that the ship has sailed and this effort probably isn't going to do much.

which i guess is relevant to me because like, if town voting all town she does have to try but i'm unsure if she makes the cases she is now. i'm kind of into like, reading how people are interacting with each other and i'm not entirely turned off by the dv case. idk!

i don't... think i'm willing to change my vote (though i would include myself in one obviously. lol) if it comes to it with the time remaining, but i'm kind of mentally prepping for it to fail tbh. i don't know. i'm struggling to find where wolves actually are this game but like maybe i'm won over by implo and kyouko's posting a bit. implo's more.

kind of worried that my cold feet are just due to absence because my reads have went tepid. i think dragon is strongly town. the entire... everything in dragon's iso is far beyond what i think a wolf-dragon needs to do? klick i think is... probably for now. elements exists but i feel like it hasn't cared as much lately. hypocrite that i am it worries me because most of everyone else feels like they care and thus the reads above and thus my earlier idea of the game being "wolves no plan no control" falls more onto elements' MO of play atm which !!!!!!!!!! uh oh. i don't have any great reason though when i read its posting to think wolf otherwise so.

appearance is...okay. i struggle to find a strong town or wolf motivation from their posting which is troublesome because it could swing either way but in the absence of a clear agenda, etc. i think if the coalition fails i would probably start here. i'm unsure.

deasvail has felt... towny to me i think in replying to kyouko so i worry it might be a t/t spat. i think he makes reasonable points in response but i did get a vibe when he said like, him/klick would be playing bad that like klick could maybe not be a wolf but dv could be curbstomping with someone else. i don't know if that's silly or not. i keep thinking back to what klick said about him sounding fake sometimes in tone and i'm relying a lot on that atm because i don't actually remember having to read dv before.

[Ydrasse]

i kind of feel like in posting all of that i'm just making excuses to myself for not changing my vote or looking harder/silly/throwing the game when other people have expressed they also want this coalition/one very similar because i feel very nervous about a coalition succeeding but don't know how to change it. i don't really want to advocate for myself to be in it that much because i waffle about who i would take out and if it does fail even with me in it i will throw a fit when people potentially suspect me.

[Prism]

Coalition Vote Count 0.6

Ramen noodle pizza. Yay!

Coalition	Voters
Klick, DragonEater70, Elements, Appearance, DeasVail (4)	Ydrasse, DeasVail, Klick, Appearance
Elements, Klick, Ydrasse, DragonEater70, Appearance (1)	implosion
ssbm_Kyouko, Elements, DragonEater70, Ydrasse, Appearance (1)	ssbm_Kyouko
Not Voting (3)	T3, Elements, DragonEater70

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to form a coalition.

No coalition has been achieved. The Coalition Phase deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-10 23:00:00).

[Prism]

T3 has been prodded. He has 24 hours to post before I begin searching for a replacement.

[DragonEater70]

R u fine with me hammering a coalition without you?

Like I still prefer to have you inside over Klick or DV but like. Idk if people are gonna change over.

[Klick]

Ydrasse you're saying that you aren't sure who you'd remove

But it sounds like you're mostly worried about Elements?

[Ydrasse]

i'm fine not being in the coalition

and i mean i guess? it's not even a strong worry and i think i might just be paranoid or detached from absence. but rrgjfgj. i would maybe remove dv or appearance. im really unsure

[Klick]

Okay

Klick I don't want a reason to think you are town. Can you give me a reason why I should just have faith in our coalition (including DV)?

Work now sorry, can respons later

I can't give like a lot more reason than the individual reads I've already expressed?

It depends on what the purpose of voting the coalition is

[Klick]

It might be an appropriate time to pull out my l33t decision-making theory if no one feels super confident

[Klick]

Do we generally agree outside of implosion that DragonEater is just town?