Open 900: 7p Wilson [Endgame]

[ORAM]

VC 1.08

combined mod ISO

Doctor Drew (2):

Psyche, Aureal

Aureal (1):

tired person

tired person (2):

Black, Doctor Drew

Not Voting (2):

MargotRosa, Save The Dragons

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.
There are (expired on 2024-01-14 20:06:04) left in the deadline.

[Black]

7 hours

Time to start consolidating @tired @margot @std

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: tired person

[Aureal]

Who do you guys think tired would be partnered with if not Drew?

[Aureal]

If tired flips town, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow. If tired flips scum, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow.

Flipping tired tells me nothing, flipping Drew is actually informative. If Drew is actually town in spite of my strong suspicion, I need to know that now and I re-evaluate. We only get one wrong flip here, remember.

[ORAM]

Prodding Psyche.

[tired person]

ooh i have an idea ok ok ok give me while

Drew you should sheep me on tired person

VOTE: Tired

I do hope Psyche has something fun cooked up for us though lol

reason?

Psyche left us on this(also left us wondering why he was town read lol)

i meant, reason for voting me?

I don't like that tired is coming up with reasons to hammer Drew now that there is interest in a tired wagon

let me get this straight: i'm scummy and survivalistic because i am pointing out that drew's jump on me is scummy and survivalistic?

[tired person]

Who do you guys think tired would be partnered with if not Drew?

If tired flips town, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow. If tired flips scum, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow.

Flipping tired tells me nothing, flipping Drew is actually informative. If Drew is actually town in spite of my strong suspicion, I need to know that now and I re-evaluate. We only get one wrong flip here, remember.

ok maybe aureal is not scum

VOTE: tired person

ok maybe sdt is scum

VOTE: sdt

[tired person]

7 hours

Time to start consolidating @tired @margot @std

VOTE: drew

[Doctor Drew]

If tired flips town, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow. If tired flips scum, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow.

Flipping tired tells me nothing, flipping Drew is actually informative. If Drew is actually town in spite of my strong suspicion, I need to know that now and I re-evaluate. We only get one wrong flip here, remember.

You need to stop just assuming I am scum and change your thinking ASAP, you are tunneled and think tired must be trying to protect me and vis a vis makes me scum. Point blank, the flip of tired has nothing to do with my alignment

Am I really gonna proactively push my buddy here? I was on std, why would I just switch to tired so easily to my 'buddy'?

Also why would I box myself in by basically calling you and Black pretty obv town?

[Doctor Drew]

ooh i have an idea ok ok ok give me while

Drew you should sheep me on tired person

VOTE: Tired

I do hope Psyche has something fun cooked up for us though lol

reason?

Psyche left us on this(also left us wondering why he was town read lol)

i meant, reason for voting me?

I don't like that tired is coming up with reasons to hammer Drew now that there is interest in a tired wagon

let me get this straight: i'm scummy and survivalistic because i am pointing out that drew's jump on me is scummy and survivalistic?

I also think psyche is like, obviously town. margot is also a bit towny. the other 3 idk yet,

I don't think I can read you before we get a flip

Are you referring to me in particular or all 3 of your null reads? Also why do you think this?

i was referring to all three nulls, with an emphasis on you. the reason is your and drew's playstyle is too chaotic for me to be able to discern your alignment based on play only, and sdt's playstyle is too mild to be able to get anything out of it either. but after a flip i could probably form better reads based on how you interacted with the person who flipped.

Pre Edit: God dammit, are you and Aureal possibly both town?

if i be honest, i am not sure why, but i think black and aureal are almost never both town.

Ok, enough sweet talk. Back to scumreading and killing scum

vote aureal then.

Also not a fan here.

I get saying my play style is chaotic, but I would not describe yours that way.

If anything I would describe Aureal as more chaotic, yet they seem to have a pretty solid read on her for a reason?

I said as much I have been trusting Black and sheeped her on std and onto you since I don't have a clear cut solid scum read(until recent events).

But, in addition for reasons Black stated I also did point this out

[Black]

If tired flips town, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow. If tired flips scum, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow.

Flipping tired tells me nothing, flipping Drew is actually informative. If Drew is actually town in spite of my strong suspicion, I need to know that now and I re-evaluate. We only get one wrong flip here, remember.

Alright

VOTE: Drew

[Black]

Well Drew don't leave us hanging

[Doctor Drew]

Well Drew don't leave us hanging

Lol, what do you mean?

[Black]

I hammered you

Are you scum?

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: tired person

ok maybe sdt is scum

VOTE: sdt

because i voted you? come on

[ORAM]

There has been a hammer. Twilight lasts 1 hour per the rules; the thread will close in (expired on 2024-01-14 16:34:46).

[Aureal]

If tired flips town, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow. If tired flips scum, what do we do then? We're probably back after Drew tomorrow.

Flipping tired tells me nothing, flipping Drew is actually informative. If Drew is actually town in spite of my strong suspicion, I need to know that now and I re-evaluate. We only get one wrong flip here, remember.

Alright

VOTE: Drew

Thanks, but you're not off the hook either way.

I'm feeling one of you or Drew is scum here, if not both together. Pushing for tired instead of Drew for the weak reasoning of 'gamestate feels like scum are cool with this' feels wrong coming from you. I've never really noticed you to be too concerned with gamestate reads. And you're a significant factor in the gamestate being the way it is, with the hammer announcement then backing down. If you're scum with Drew, it at least delays the info of a scumflip and then you probably go for getting someone to vote STD in 3p ELO if we do the likely thing and get Drew tomorrow. If you're scum with someone other than Drew, I feel like Psyche is the best fit. He also contributed to stalling the gamestate with the "idea" that has yet to materialize, and the two of you are both largely not suspected so setting up someone like tired who doesn't have the bad associations of Drew as the first flip would be strongly preferable to you.

[Black]

I don't like that you are toying with the idea of scumreading me regardless of what Drew flips here. Feels kinda agenda driven

[Aureal]

Bottom line, I think STD and Margot are just likely town so I'm not solving for teams with them. I know you guys don't like it, but STD just doesn't do a lot as town. He's being nonchalant and not trying to push an agenda.

Drew/tired
Drew/Black
Black/Psyche

[Aureal]

I don't like that you are toying with the idea of scumreading me regardless of what Drew flips here. Feels kinda agenda driven

Well yes, I don't expect you to like it, that's why I held off on giving the rest of my re-evaluation until I could see what reaction my ask would get.

[Black]

I also don't like that you are trying to blame the stale gamestate on me. People weren't very active long before my intent post. It feels like you threw this in because you needed more reasons to shade me

[Black]

I don't like that you are toying with the idea of scumreading me regardless of what Drew flips here. Feels kinda agenda driven

Well yes, I don't expect you to like it, that's why I held off on giving the rest of my re-evaluation until I could see what reaction my ask would get.

Mmhmmm

[Doctor Drew]

I hammered you

Are you scum?

Oh I missed that

No, like I said I am not scum, and what have you learned now Aureal?

[Aureal]

I don't need more reasons to shade you, I've already given them

I'm just giving my solve in case someone shoots me