Continuing my catch up (yes I know I suck for not doing the entire thing at once), I actually think HPE's posting on page 7 doesn't really come from scum, particularly the part of explaining the reasoning why shadow can't be scum by saying it is town.
So I guess I answered my own question of what towny things did it do this game.
The reason for my vote is that vulpix's posts felt a bit cautious to me, particularly 84 which doesn't feel like a massively natural response for someone who doesn't 'get the joke' on the shadow wagon - I'd expect them to push back on it like black and hpe did. Also, 77 felt off coming from someone who apparently knows Koba.
Can you explain what do you mean by cautious?
I don't understand on what you're saying on this post when you talked about me not getting the jokes on them. At first the votes did look like rvs and once when I saw Shadow being discussed some more about not showing up, it didn't look like a joke to me and I started wondering maybe the players have never played with Shadow and I wanted to clear this up through my experience with Shadow.
Can you also elaborate on what what do you find that's off about 77
- A
By cautious, I mean it feels deliberate and like you are holding back in some way?
Re: the second paragraph, I think if you thought we were being serious your reaction would have more "what the fuck" alongside it, similar to black and HPE.
I think 77 may come from an unnatural thought process because I don't believe the thought "Koba plays like Not_Mafia" is organic coming from someone who has played with Koba before. It feels constructed, like you thought "I should make a post about how I'm very concerned about eliminating people in RVS" and worked backwards from there, which I think scum are more likely to do.
Huh? Have you ever had a thought like that as scum and then worked backwards from there??? That's not something that scum players do.
In post 207, Two Level 1 Rogues wrote:
Thoughts up to page 5:
Koba is probably town
vibes wise I don't like HPE
Ausuka - Idk her posting is giving me slightly weird vibes but I don't think this means she has to be scum. I also haven't ever been in a game with Ausuka so I am not rly sure how to read her (oh wait nvm I just realized I HAD been in a game with Ausuka but I was scum). Uhhhhh actually I guess she has different vibes to that game so that could mean she's scum? Dunno
tris - literally 0 clue how to read
everyone else hasn't even made an impression on me.
Why HPE over Ausuka when you have similar reasoning ("vibes"), but actually have more to say about Ausuka?
Ausuka was "I didn't get this vibe from town!Ausuka in the past so could be scum"
HPE was "I did get this vibe from scum!HPE in the past so probably scum"
Also, it's more fun to put someone at E-1 than E-4.
In post 188, Flare Fluff wrote:
Deliberate means purpose and so you think I made that post just to show off?
On the second paragraph to your post you thought a natural response would have been "what the fuck" about the wagon on Shadow about players not knowing he is vla on weekends? Saying a reaction like "what the fuck" looks like a weird response for clearing up why a player is absent in my opinion.
I disagree on the third paragraph. Players will change their playstyles out of the blue and seeing that DkKoba changed their avatar I was worried they changed their playstyle to a troll who would instantly hammer at L-1 without waiting for the player to claim. I know a player who changed his playstyle just to troll and for not wanting to take playing mafia seriously anymore.
- A
Where are you getting showing off from? Purpose means doing stuff for a reason. I think most of what scum does is just vibes and difficult (but not impossible) to catch, but some of the stuff they do is purposefully meant to advance their wincon and that's easier to aim for.
I didn't mean literally "what the fuck" but at least a little bit of bafflement, which again I think other players in this game did show so I don't think it would be particularly weird.
In post 251, Two Level 1 Rogues wrote:
Huh? Have you ever had a thought like that as scum and then worked backwards from there??? That's not something that scum players do.
In post 238, shaddowez wrote:
I realize you talked with Black about this a little bit, but can you elaborate on your word choice here? Getting absolutely no information based on the quick day (outside of my flip) is one thing, but I don't see that as "Terrifying".
It's a terrifying implication as to the ability of town if they let it happen and pass D1 by with no info but a probable greenflip gained.
Makes sense. Also +1 TR, because I don't feel scum would have had that sort of answer readily enough to answer as quickly as HPE did.
You don't think scum would be able to explain why they don't think quick-elimination on page 5 is a good idea?
In post 226, Black wrote:
I think HPE's reactions and responses to his wagon feel fine. There's a sense of entitlement in his read regarding the e-2 stuff and it makes me think he actually believes what he's saying
In post 133, Roden wrote:
Would you like to join me on Shaddow in the mean time at least?
That's a weird question to ask right after your interaction with HPE. Do you have any thoughts of its alignment?
@Roden
I don't think it's town. It's claiming to be wary of quick hammers and flash wagons, but it didn't want to vote Shaddow even after the momentum there lulled. Withdrawing it's vote from Ausuka's wagon as well when it gained momentum makes me think it either only cares about appearances in case of a town flip, or is wary protecting a partner from an early elim. Either way, I don't see the town motivation for it.
In post 133, Roden wrote:
Would you like to join me on Shaddow in the mean time at least?
That's a weird question to ask right after your interaction with HPE. Do you have any thoughts of its alignment?
@Roden
I don't think it's town. It's claiming to be wary of quick hammers and flash wagons, but it didn't want to vote Shaddow even after the momentum there lulled. Withdrawing it's vote from Ausuka's wagon as well when it gained momentum makes me think it either only cares about appearances in case of a town flip, or is wary protecting a partner from an early elim. Either way, I don't see the town motivation for it.
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