Open 901 - Normal Idea Mafia Redux - Postgame

[Jake The Wolfie]

I would suggest that no one else joins the Argon wagon in an official capacity, lest The Hammer lurks amongst us.

[Alianna]

1.12

Votecount 1.12

Argonauts (4): Invisibility, Save The Dragons, Black, Roden
shaddowez (2): lucca261, Not_Mafia
Jacob24 (2): JacksonVirgo, Skygazer
Invisibility (1): shaddowez
Skygazer (1): SirCakez
Not_Mafia (1): Hu Tao
Save The Dragons (1): Jake The Wolfie
Jake The Wolfie (1): Argonauts

Not Voting (1): Jacob24

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to secure an execution or 7 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-21 20:03:19).

[Jake The Wolfie]

Ah, nevermind. Carry on

[Jake The Wolfie]

[In preperation for reading Argon, I decided to ISO them. This post caught my eye and gave me an idea.]

catching up again.
~o

Could the other two, Atlanta and Asclepius, please talk to the poet in private such that their thoughts may be brought into the light with each of you as conduits? It's a little annoying how it seems that only 2/3rds of your slot is engaging with the game.

[Argonauts]

He's been busy. And, uh, not a terribly active and talkative poster in general I think? I can ask him to not bother making "catching up" posts if you'd prefer? Did you have a specific question for him?

-Atalanta

[Jake The Wolfie]

He's been busy. And, uh, not a terribly active and talkative poster in general I think? I can ask him to not bother making "catching up" posts if you'd prefer? Did you have a specific question for him?

-Atalanta

Nothing specific, just their thoughts on the game.

[Jake The Wolfie]

[While I was preparing the ISO on Argon, I came across this conversation with Tao. I would like to discuss these two posts in particular.

I think I still want not_mafia today. He is different from when he was town last time I played with him,. Definitely more reads. and then when I said it, he said 316

Reads? Where? What posts do you see as Not_Mafia making reads?

-Atalanta

He's doing way more here than what he did as town when I was with him before. So that's why I assumed these were reads

[...]

Why did I go from the bottom of your list to the top?

He's just trolling now

How so?

Look at the last name

These two posts are rather contradictory in terms of belief, and they occur only ~18 hours apart. This rather inexplicable and unexplained change of read on Not_Mafia is strange. I might just have to make an ISO on Tao in the future.

[Argonauts]

We haven't really been doing much of any discussion in private, just so you know, if you're expecting us to be able to give you anything of what he would be thinking. Are two people not enough for you?

-Atalanta

[Jake The Wolfie]

We haven't really been doing much of any discussion in private, just so you know, if you're expecting us to be able to give you anything of what he would be thinking. Are two people not enough for you?

-Atalanta

You two have been excellent in your journey thus far, and your ISO is evident of this fact.

[Roden]

[While I was preparing the ISO on Argon, I came across this conversation with Tao. I would like to discuss these two posts in particular.

I think I still want not_mafia today. He is different from when he was town last time I played with him,. Definitely more reads. and then when I said it, he said 316

Reads? Where? What posts do you see as Not_Mafia making reads?

-Atalanta

He's doing way more here than what he did as town when I was with him before. So that's why I assumed these were reads

[...]

Why did I go from the bottom of your list to the top?

He's just trolling now

How so?

Look at the last name

These two posts are rather contradictory in terms of belief, and they occur only ~18 hours apart. This rather inexplicable and unexplained change of read on Not_Mafia is strange. I might just have to make an ISO on Tao in the future.

I don't think those posts are contradictory at all.

[Jake The Wolfie]

[While I was preparing the ISO on Argon, I came across this conversation with Tao. I would like to discuss these two posts in particular.

[[...]]

[[...]]

These two posts are rather contradictory in terms of belief, and they occur only ~18 hours apart. This rather inexplicable and unexplained change of read on Not_Mafia is strange. I might just have to make an ISO on Tao in the future.

I don't think those posts are contradictory at all.

What are your thoughts on them?

[Roden]

[While I was preparing the ISO on Argon, I came across this conversation with Tao. I would like to discuss these two posts in particular.

[[...]]

[[...]]

These two posts are rather contradictory in terms of belief, and they occur only ~18 hours apart. This rather inexplicable and unexplained change of read on Not_Mafia is strange. I might just have to make an ISO on Tao in the future.

I don't think those posts are contradictory at all.

What are your thoughts on them?

If I'm wrong then Hu Tao can correct me, but I interpret it as Hu Tao saying that NM usually trolls almost the entire time instead of just half of the time.

[Jake The Wolfie]

[While I was preparing the ISO on Argon, I came across this conversation with Tao. I would like to discuss these two posts in particular.

[[...]]

[[...]]

These two posts are rather contradictory in terms of belief, and they occur only ~18 hours apart. This rather inexplicable and unexplained change of read on Not_Mafia is strange. I might just have to make an ISO on Tao in the future.

I don't think those posts are contradictory at all.

What are your thoughts on them?

If I'm wrong then Hu Tao can correct me, but I interpret it as Hu Tao saying that NM usually trolls almost the entire time instead of just half of the time.

That is both an excellent point and also unsubstantiated by the text. I am left bewildered by this interpretation.

[Argonauts]

Oh right, was going to respond to this.

Just curious - I've seen this from you before, is it a standard opening you use to avoid giving information?

Straight into shading someone, gotta love it

Says the man throwing shade without a vote.

Since when did I need to place a vote to make a point

You don't need to, but it helps

This might be a read if you squint, or just advice.

Since when did I need to place a vote to make a point

What's the motivation for a townie who sees supposedly scummy activity, and isn't currently voting anyone, to NOT vote the scummy activity? OTOH, scum could want to point out the activity in hope that another townie picks up on it and starts a push.

Also, your point on my question is wrong. Even if she answers yes, that just means she's playing to her overall scum meta (town would want towniness to come through in RVS). It says nothing about this particular game. It's literally designed to say nothing about this game. So, how would I push her on it, even with an affirmative answer?

All the question does is help me understand her for future games. That's why I prefaced it with "Just curious."

Oh you're serious, lmfao alright.
Even if I was serious enough to think you were >rand wolf from this, I don't care about a vote, I consider it a useless thing to flop around unless I really wanna do something with it or I'm making a joke. If a vote is what's needed to make a point, there's no point in doing anything but just voting people. We can use words, so I'll use words.

My point on your question isn't wrong, it's framed in a way that appears to be trying to make them look bad OR to make you look like you're doing something both of which are bad but I didn't even remotely care outside of poking fun until you're taking this way further than I expected it to.

Yeah but like you just click a couple of buttons

Same as above.

I'm convinced

VOTE: SirCakez

Unironically suspecting shaddowez

This actually sounds like a read but he then immediately posts the following readlist:

J

a

c

k

s

o

n

V

i

r

g

o

I

n

v

i

s

i

b

i

l

i

t

y

M

u

c

h

o

M

a

n

R

a

n

d

y

P

a

s

s

i

o

n

S

k

y

g

a

z

e

r

A

r

g

o

n

a

u

t

s

s

h

a

d

d

o

w

e

z

Z

e

b

e

d

e

e

S

a

v

e

T

h

e

D

r

a

g

o

n

s

R

o

d

e

n

S

i

r

C

a

k

e

z

H

u

T

a

o

B

l

a

c

k

l

u

c

c

a

2

6

1

N

o

t

_

M

a

f

i

a

And shaddowez is in the upper half despite being the person just noted as being suspected? Does not lend itself to being taken seriously.

Why?

Okay that might actually be genuine engagement but it's still in the same category of the first few posts of "not really a read".

[Argonauts]

Wow, I don't usually fail quotes like that. It's late and I'm tired. Let's try that again.

Just curious - I've seen this from you before, is it a standard opening you use to avoid giving information?

Straight into shading someone, gotta love it

Says the man throwing shade without a vote.

Since when did I need to place a vote to make a point

You don't need to, but it helps

This might be a read if you squint, or just advice.

Since when did I need to place a vote to make a point

What's the motivation for a townie who sees supposedly scummy activity, and isn't currently voting anyone, to NOT vote the scummy activity? OTOH, scum could want to point out the activity in hope that another townie picks up on it and starts a push.

Also, your point on my question is wrong. Even if she answers yes, that just means she's playing to her overall scum meta (town would want towniness to come through in RVS). It says nothing about this particular game. It's literally designed to say nothing about this game. So, how would I push her on it, even with an affirmative answer?

All the question does is help me understand her for future games. That's why I prefaced it with "Just curious."

Oh you're serious, lmfao alright.
Even if I was serious enough to think you were >rand wolf from this, I don't care about a vote, I consider it a useless thing to flop around unless I really wanna do something with it or I'm making a joke. If a vote is what's needed to make a point, there's no point in doing anything but just voting people. We can use words, so I'll use words.

My point on your question isn't wrong, it's framed in a way that appears to be trying to make them look bad OR to make you look like you're doing something both of which are bad but I didn't even remotely care outside of poking fun until you're taking this way further than I expected it to.

Yeah but like you just click a couple of buttons

Same as above.

I'm convinced

VOTE: SirCakez

Unironically suspecting shaddowez

This actually sounds like a read but he then immediately posts the following readlist:

J

a

c

k

s

o

n

V

i

r

g

o

I

n

v

i

s

i

b

i

l

i

t

y

M

u

c

h

o

M

a

n

R

a

n

d

y

P

a

s

s

i

o

n

S

k

y

g

a

z

e

r

A

r

g

o

n

a

u

t

s

s

h

a

d

d

o

w

e

z

Z

e

b

e

d

e

e

S

a

v

e

T

h

e

D

r

a

g

o

n

s

R

o

d

e

n

S

i

r

C

a

k

e

z

H

u

T

a

o

B

l

a

c

k

l

u

c

c

a

2

6

1

N

o

t

_

M

a

f

i

a

And shaddowez is in the upper half despite being the person just noted as being suspected? Does not lend itself to being taken seriously.

Why?

Okay that might actually be genuine engagement but it's still in the same category of the first few posts of "not really a read".

[Argonauts]

And not remembering to sign either, really should go to bed.

-Atalanta

[Hu Tao]

[While I was preparing the ISO on Argon, I came across this conversation with Tao. I would like to discuss these two posts in particular.

[[...]]

[[...]]

These two posts are rather contradictory in terms of belief, and they occur only ~18 hours apart. This rather inexplicable and unexplained change of read on Not_Mafia is strange. I might just have to make an ISO on Tao in the future.

I don't think those posts are contradictory at all.

What are your thoughts on them?

If I'm wrong then Hu Tao can correct me, but I interpret it as Hu Tao saying that NM usually trolls almost the entire time instead of just half of the time.

Yes. He started doing nothing after being called out by me

[Skygazer]

pro-tip: don't smoke cigarettes

quitting sucks

[Skygazer]

VOTE: argo

consolidating

[Skygazer]

Ill be off for a bit but if someone can catch me up I’d appreciate it.

i might be thinking too hard or (not hard enough) about this, but i feel like asking to be caught up two or three times is indicative of not having scum buddies

[Jacob24]

Am I allowed to say what I am? Also, do mafia have a PM group on this version of the game? I assume that’s what you’re implying

[Jacob24]

Argos split personality thing is giving me a headache too. Are they always like that in forum?

Still holding my vote. If anyone has suspicions of me I’d like to hear them out

[Skygazer]

you are allowed to say what you are but generally people don't until it's time to claim or if they get a guilty or something (to hide info from scum)

mafia get private topics they can talk in

Argo is a hydra, which means they have multiple players controlling that account

[Jacob24]

Thank you for note on Argo. Still bizarre to me though .

Has anyone made any claims yet?

Why all the votes on Argo?

[Jacob24]

Thank you for note on Argo. Still bizarre to me though .

Has anyone made any claims yet?

Why all the votes on Argo?