micro 1096: planned idea [game over]

[Flare Fluff]

I don't like HPE playstyle regardless of what alignment it is.

- A

...So now you're saying the exact same thing that this one said which "pissed you off"?

You have argued with Roden and insulted each other, then you attacked Margot, and insulted us. You need to stop that because it makes some players feel uncomfortable.

- A

Very uncharitable and discredity way of looking at my interactions with Margot in particular. Which is why you're getting heat from me, not because this one is some serial toxic shadeass like you seem to so stubbornly believe, with the way you're continually bringing up Roden and unable to move on from that incident.

You're being inconsistent. You voted us because of Harle's readslist and the accusatory and now you are changing your story on this post and said we're getting heat because of the interactions with you and Margot we talked about which is a lie because I never talked about your interactions and instead I asked for your takes and all I remember is you and Roden attacking each other.

- A

[Flare Fluff]

I feel like as if my slot has been obv town by play and the players just don't like our playstyles.

- A

[Ausuka]

VOTE: Rogue

[Ausuka]

Sort of surprised that didn't get a reaction.

Anyway, it feels sort of difficult to believe this is an intentional tactic upon reflection. I think there is a certain level of self righteousness and irritation that is very difficult to fake emotionally, and it's also not likely that Adorable and Harle are skilled at that specific manipulation tactic and not anything else that makes for effective scumplay. It doesn't really add up too well for me.

It's possible flare fluff is scum and still genuinely believes what they're saying about the rest of us being stupid because they don't understand what we're saying. I need to think about it more, but I think the flat assumption that people who scumread them are wrong and dumb without really appearing to grapple or address the points being made is not super likely to come from scum.

To be honest, I probably should have come to this conclusion earlier, but I was annoyed and didn't really want to. I felt like my arguments were fundamentally correct so I kept pushing them but I don't think policy elimination on Day 1 is actually a good idea.

I think rogue's question about "what does flare fluff think about the wagons", including me, was a really scummy post. I don't think the push on Black was great, and idk I guess their treatment of flare feels a bit weird to me. I think I might have to think about how I can verbalise that feeling better, and them being a hydra with two very different approaches to the slot complicates things. I usually don't play games with hydras so I'm not super used to dealing with it. In any case, I think the core of my problem with it is it feels like Theran kind of wants to push FF but doesn't actually do it?

[Flare Fluff]

Very uncharitable and discredity way of looking at my interactions with Margot in particular. Which is why you're getting heat from me, not because this one is some serial toxic shadeass like you seem to so stubbornly believe, with the way you're continually bringing up Roden and unable to move on from that incident.

tbh it, you seem to have big ego. and come as really rude.


~H

[Flare Fluff]

Anyway, it feels sort of difficult to believe this is an intentional tactic upon reflection. I think there is a certain level of self righteousness and irritation that is very difficult to fake emotionally, and it's also not likely that Adorable and Harle are skilled at that specific manipulation tactic and not anything else that makes for effective scumplay. It doesn't really add up too well for me.

It's possible flare fluff is scum and still genuinely believes what they're saying about the rest of us being stupid because they don't understand what we're saying. I need to think about it more, but I think the flat assumption that people who scumread them are wrong and dumb without really appearing to grapple or address the points being made is not super likely to come from scum.

I never called anyone dumb, but ok with this flat lie narrative. there have been some misunderstanding but i never called anyone stupid/dumb this is really rude/hostile narrative.


every time i read response from this slot, it on new character assassination of me and A and twisting it false accusations like us calling people dumb.




~H

[Ausuka]

i mean you told me i don't know how to read like today

[Flare Fluff]

i mean you told me i don't know how to read like today

you ignored, i even mention people like you and others ignoring what i stated early. for read comment

it does not =stupid/dumb


~H

[Flare Fluff]

Anyway, it feels sort of difficult to believe this is an intentional tactic upon reflection. I think there is a certain level of self righteousness and irritation that is very difficult to fake emotionally, and it's also not likely that Adorable and Harle are skilled at that specific manipulation tactic and not anything else that makes for effective scumplay. It doesn't really add up too well for me.

It's possible flare fluff is scum and still genuinely believes what they're saying about the rest of us being stupid because they don't understand what we're saying. I need to think about it more, but I think the flat assumption that people who scumread them are wrong and dumb without really appearing to grapple or address the points being made is not super likely to come from scum.

I never called anyone dumb, but ok with this flat lie narrative. there have been some misunderstanding but i never called anyone stupid/dumb this is really rude/hostile narrative.


every time i read response from this slot, it on new character assassination of me and A and twisting it false accusations like us calling people dumb.




~H

she meant,

~H

[Ausuka]

I'm not sure I understand that there is a significant difference between telling someone they don't know how to read and telling someone they're dumb. I do understand why my comment would upset you if you do consider those things different, so I'm sorry for that.

[Flare Fluff]

I'm not sure I understand that there is a significant difference between telling someone they don't know how to read and telling someone they're dumb. I do understand why my comment would upset you if you do consider those things different, so I'm sorry for that.

why would you think someone saying not read=dumb?

if person not reading, this usually means the player is ignoring the question by not reading what the person stated early. To avoid the question.



~H

[Ausuka]

If you're saying "you're not reading" that's very different to calling someone dumb. Telling me I can't read is, in my mind, very similar. I think there's a large distinction there.

Regardless, unless this is relevant to mafia, we might want to shelve this specific discussion since it'd be awkward for the other 7 players in the game if it dragged on.

[Flare Fluff]

It's actually rather hard to simmer down when everyone pushing you is doing so in blatant bad faith.

why should a or i be concerned, you seem to say we are liability which already rude, and here you are complaining about being pushed when no one is even voting you off. except for roden sub in.

are you a drama person? I do not see you top wagon for this complaint.




~H

[DkKoba]

Sort of surprised that didn't get a reaction.

Anyway, it feels sort of difficult to believe this is an intentional tactic upon reflection. I think there is a certain level of self righteousness and irritation that is very difficult to fake emotionally, and it's also not likely that Adorable and Harle are skilled at that specific manipulation tactic and not anything else that makes for effective scumplay. It doesn't really add up too well for me.

It's possible flare fluff is scum and still genuinely believes what they're saying about the rest of us being stupid because they don't understand what we're saying. I need to think about it more, but I think the flat assumption that people who scumread them are wrong and dumb without really appearing to grapple or address the points being made is not super likely to come from scum.

To be honest, I probably should have come to this conclusion earlier, but I was annoyed and didn't really want to. I felt like my arguments were fundamentally correct so I kept pushing them but I don't think policy elimination on Day 1 is actually a good idea.

I think rogue's question about "what does flare fluff think about the wagons", including me, was a really scummy post. I don't think the push on Black was great, and idk I guess their treatment of flare feels a bit weird to me. I think I might have to think about how I can verbalise that feeling better, and them being a hydra with two very different approaches to the slot complicates things. I usually don't play games with hydras so I'm not super used to dealing with it. In any case, I think the core of my problem with it is it feels like Theran kind of wants to push FF but doesn't actually do it?

i think their level of illogical reactions are not at all binnable in the town direction, saying this having been burned by similar very recently in an MU game and also historically having this be the type of player that gets away from me by refuging in audacity hard enough

[Ausuka]

Can I have a link to the mu game you're talking about

[DkKoba]

Can I have a link to the mu game you're talking about

i replaced in day 2 but sure

[DkKoba]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... OEIS-Mafia im tommy oliver here

[tris]

VOTE: rogues i can go back here

[DkKoba]

is that e-1

[tris]

wait is it?

[DkKoba]

nope, someone else pls vote

[DkKoba]

i bet u

[DkKoba]

beg***

[Black]

Koba is either trolling or they're scum. Maybe both

When I had the thought that both hydras could be scum, they said "nah", and at the time they scumread FF

That would imply they don't think Rogues is scum but now they want to hammer them

[DkKoba]

Koba is either trolling or they're scum. Maybe both

When I had the thought that both hydras could be scum, they said "nah", and at the time they scumread FF

That would imply they don't think Rogues is scum but now they want to hammer them

put them at e-1 and we'll find out