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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:15 pm

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In post 614, tris wrote: auuusuka i want to town read you.
Idk how to engage with this when your thought process is roughly as transparent as a black hole. Unless you just don't want me to, which, like, fine I guess.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:23 pm

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Margot's posting feels like a great argument against 48/24 prod timers in games with one week deadlines.

The townlock on me felt weird. I asked about it, and then asked again, and she's just kind of dipped and now it's almost deadline. Nothing else stands out to me. I thought roden's early game was kind of towny. I do not have any more thoughts on this slot.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:29 pm

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In post 648, Ausuka wrote: Why are you trying to convince rogues that they're town instead of just thinking, like, not everyone values scum games as much as you do
That wasn't what I was doing at all
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:32 pm

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I mean idk maybe I misinterpreted. From my perspective the interaction went something like this:

Black: Rogue is town because scum wouldn't forget about the game
Rogue: Uh I totally would lol
Black: No you wouldn't

Am I misunderstanding it? Or is it an issue with the phrasing or something
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:38 pm

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Yeah, you are misunderstanding it. Dragon said he had a history of flaking as scum and I asked him to provide examples. I didn't ask him that to try and convince him he was town, I was trying to get more information to determine if my read was poop or not
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:40 pm

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What does your readslist look like atm suki
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:40 pm

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Ok but my point is that if he thinks he as scum would forget about a game why would you need proof of that
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:41 pm

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In post 655, Black wrote: What does your readslist look like atm suki
this game is a hell hole and my thoughts are nowhere near coherent enough to form a reads list.

Like how do I even go about reading margot or shaddow or koba
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:43 pm

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i dont like either of these top wagons but we should get one of them to e-1
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:44 pm

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In post 656, Ausuka wrote: Ok but my point is that if he thinks he as scum would forget about a game why would you need proof of that
He was asking me why I considered it +town of him and used his "history" as a reason why I shouldn't. It's not like he said "I would forget about a game as scum" and I said "no you wouldn't", he specifically said he's done it before. I wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking any games where he did this
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:44 pm

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Koba if your role is that when you get someone to e-1 the mod will post a poop emoji or some other bullshit I will be so mad
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:44 pm

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In post 660, Ausuka wrote: Koba if your role is that when you get someone to e-1 the mod will post a poop emoji or some other bullshit I will be so mad
:poop:
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:50 pm

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In post 659, Black wrote:
In post 656, Ausuka wrote: Ok but my point is that if he thinks he as scum would forget about a game why would you need proof of that
He was asking me why I considered it +town of him and used his "history" as a reason why I shouldn't. It's not like he said "I would forget about a game as scum" and I said "no you wouldn't", he specifically said he's done it before. I wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking any games where he did this
I think there are two ways I can read this post

If you're saying "he didn't say he would forget about a game as scum", him saying he believes he has done it before is definitely that

If you're saying "he did say that but what he specifically said was that he'd done it before, but I wanted additional context" that makes more sense to me, but I guess my question is like, why is that important to determining the quality of your read in this context when he already said the read wouldn't apply to him (and I do think that, like, whether or not you value scumgames highly is very personal)

I do think my first post about this subject was too snippy, I was in a bit of a bad mood, sorry for that
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:52 pm

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In post 662, Ausuka wrote:
In post 659, Black wrote:
In post 656, Ausuka wrote: Ok but my point is that if he thinks he as scum would forget about a game why would you need proof of that
He was asking me why I considered it +town of him and used his "history" as a reason why I shouldn't. It's not like he said "I would forget about a game as scum" and I said "no you wouldn't", he specifically said he's done it before. I wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking any games where he did this
I think there are two ways I can read this post

If you're saying "he didn't say he would forget about a game as scum", him saying he believes he has done it before is definitely that

If you're saying "he did say that but what he specifically said was that he'd done it before, but I wanted additional context" that makes more sense to me, but I guess my question is like, why is that important to determining the quality of your read in this context when he already said the read wouldn't apply to him (and I do think that, like, whether or not you value scumgames highly is very personal)

I do think my first post about this subject was too snippy, I was in a bit of a bad mood, sorry for that
I don't understand why you are ignoring part of the context of the conversation

If he had simply said "I would forget about a game as scum" then I wouldn't have argued with him, and the conversation would have ended there. It was the fact that he said he had done it before that made me question him further
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:56 pm

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I have no idea what you're trying to say. I specifically addressed that in my post

Like it seems tangential to me
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:00 pm

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zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:01 pm

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game prediction: we kill 1 mafia and then go to final 3 where black is taken to vote wrong (assuming no extra KP)
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:02 pm

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In post 665, DkKoba wrote: zzzzzzzzzzzzz
I mean I agree but it is difficult to avoid arguing over technicalities when there is a dispute based on a technicality

You're free to bring more discussion points up if you feel like doing that
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:03 pm

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In post 666, DkKoba wrote: game prediction: we kill 1 mafia and then go to final 3 where black is taken to vote wrong (assuming no extra KP)
also i get night 1'd in this scenario
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:04 pm

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In post 650, Ausuka wrote:
In post 614, tris wrote: auuusuka i want to town read you.
Idk how to engage with this when your thought process is roughly as transparent as a black hole. Unless you just don't want me to, which, like, fine I guess.
sorry.
i don't really need anything from you atm.
is there some part of my thoughts you want to know more about?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:06 pm

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This argument seems completely pointless
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:08 pm

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In post 669, tris wrote:
In post 650, Ausuka wrote:
In post 614, tris wrote: auuusuka i want to town read you.
Idk how to engage with this when your thought process is roughly as transparent as a black hole. Unless you just don't want me to, which, like, fine I guess.
sorry.
i don't really need anything from you atm.
is there some part of my thoughts you want to know more about?
I mean why you thought i was town and why you then changed your mind on that logic would be nice
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:08 pm

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In post 670, Black wrote: This argument seems completely pointless
me watching 75% of this thread
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prodding MargotRosa.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:27 pm

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In post 671, Ausuka wrote:
In post 669, tris wrote:
In post 650, Ausuka wrote:
In post 614, tris wrote: auuusuka i want to town read you.
Idk how to engage with this when your thought process is roughly as transparent as a black hole. Unless you just don't want me to, which, like, fine I guess.
sorry.
i don't really need anything from you atm.
is there some part of my thoughts you want to know more about?
I mean why you thought i was town and why you then changed your mind on that logic would be nice
i townread you because it seemed like you were poking at things that caught your attention in a natural enough way. something like that. and i had a sense that there was some similarity to the last time we played, but then when i looked at that game i realized maybe not. but, actually im townreading your annoyance with the game now. hmmm. maybe thats something that could come from scum, but, when i look at the overall trajectory of your presence in the game, it just makes sense as town i guess? at the very least, well enough that i dont want to lim you at this point. idk im constantly doubting every thought i have its annoying. its probably annoyijg to everyone else aswell. these last couple sentences have no buisness being here except for me to expell nervous energy, so just like pretend i didnt write them. this is all just a ploy to get people to tkwnread me for being unsure and struggling with the game.
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