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[JacksonVirgo]

If I've missed something (i probably have) let me know and I'll go looking, but why are we assuming all PR's are town?

I'm not, Kage is but apparently me not just assuming everyone is Town is "complaining"

[JacksonVirgo]

The only three people I am confident in are Elements, Hu Tao and Dave. Everyone else is up in the air.

[Duelist Kage]

1. If somebody gets a suicide-vig, they should shoot Kage 100% of the time if they claim to not have received one. This will kill them 100% of the time if they lied, so they won't lie.

I'm trying to parse this. I think you mean if I claim not to have received the Macho?

Really by the point this could even matter everything should be sorted so I'm not too fussed. If Gypyx's modifiers check out and davesaz and Thomith are gone then we're in something like a bizarro 3 compulsive wolf or scum JK world but I'm fine waiting to cross that bridge.

2. The investigation I gave Hu Tao is incredibly likely unused or even if it was used last night that wifom is open, and it's a visit-based investigative so even if you do wifom. If the result goes against theirs, then you go down.

I think it's fine. Thoughts?

I can't really have thoughts on actions I don't know but I expect you and Hu are town and reasonably competent at figuring out what to do with this ability. Any additional info from whatever you two are doing is just extra on top of a fine plan.

[JacksonVirgo]

1. If somebody gets a suicide-vig, they should shoot Kage 100% of the time if they claim to not have received one. This will kill them 100% of the time if they lied, so they won't lie.

I'm trying to parse this. I think you mean if I claim not to have received the Macho?

Mhm, if you claimed to not receive the macho

[JacksonVirgo]

I can't really have thoughts on actions I don't know but I expect you and Hu are town and reasonably competent at figuring out what to do with this ability. Any additional info from whatever you two are doing is just extra on top of a fine plan.

Right, but if there's no apparent objections then we've found a decent middleground

[Duelist Kage]

Alright then. Let's make sure to verify the result Elements got on dave first though. I have trouble imagining it's not accurate because in the bizarro world where the scum get to choose the vigs and JK action she's still trueclaiming at least the N1 action part of her role. Can't imagine why she'd lie about the target.

Now you've got me actually thinking too much about bizarro worlds, alas. Probably because it's 4am. I guess if we somehow get to tomorrow and our results are me getting Macho but also clearing Gypyx off her modifiers but we didn't get either scum yet, we resolve the flip via who got the scum vig or something? I feel like Elements would likely be scum here because of the compulsive so we probably go flip her? And resolve me via the vig? Leaving Jackson/Hu/Gypyx in 3P elo with Gypyx as conftown from my action and I think maybe also Jackson because Hu is confirming his action and was 'cleared' as vanilla by scum thus not actually clear- unless whatever the invention does can prove otherwise? I would actually need to think about this more.

Dear lord, why did I go down the rabbithole?

[JacksonVirgo]

Dear lord, why did I go down the rabbithole?

Welcome to the rabbit hole

[Gypyx]

Alright then. Let's make sure to verify the result Elements got on dave first though. I have trouble imagining it's not accurate because in the bizarro world where the scum get to choose the vigs and JK action she's still trueclaiming at least the N1 action part of her role. Can't imagine why she'd lie about the target.

Now you've got me actually thinking too much about bizarro worlds, alas. Probably because it's 4am. I guess if we somehow get to tomorrow and our results are me getting Macho but also clearing Gypyx off her modifiers but we didn't get either scum yet, we resolve the flip via who got the scum vig or something? I feel like Elements would likely be scum here because of the compulsive so we probably go flip her? And resolve me via the vig? Leaving Jackson/Hu/Gypyx in 3P elo with Gypyx as conftown from my action and I think maybe also Jackson because Hu is confirming his action and was 'cleared' as vanilla by scum thus not actually clear- unless whatever the invention does can prove otherwise? I would actually need to think about this more.

Dear lord, why did I go down the rabbithole?

what zero controvesy day does to a MF

[Duelist Kage]

Meanwhile Enchant is just sitting there waiting to be released from the doomed scum slot and rolling his eyes as we spin elaborate irrelevant plans.

[Enchant]

Give me reason to care?

You want to shot town leg, not me.

[JacksonVirgo]

Guess this is as good time as any

VOTE: Enchant

[Hu Tao]

True l think the plan is good

VOTE: Enchant

[Duelist Kage]

Paging Elements for a response to this before ending day, just in case.

Elements please claim. Can you do more jail keeps?

2-shot simple compulsive combined jailkeep vanilla cop

dave N1, you N2

Oh, just seeing this. Interesting. Your vanilla cop got results on both of them? Vanilla should be a clear because remaining scum is godfather/backup into inventor (or *sigh* compulsively doing something that blocks them from making a NK). I'm assuming someone having an invention would still show as vanilla but if that's not what you got on them it's worth double-checking.

[biancospino]

votecount

Votecount 3-X

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to hammer, or 4 to decide for no execution.

Enchant (4 =

E-1

):

Duelist Kage, Gypyx, JacksonVirgo, Hu Tao

Not Voting (4):

davesaz, Elements, Enchant, Thomith

notes

• The deadline is due in (expired on 2024-01-23 05:00:23).
  
• You can find the combined mod ISO here

[Gypyx]

don't hammer before elements responds

[Elements]

Elements please claim. Can you do more jail keeps?

2-shot simple compulsive combined jailkeep vanilla cop

dave N1, you N2

Oh, just seeing this. Interesting. Your vanilla cop got results on both of them? Vanilla should be a clear because remaining scum is godfather/backup into inventor (or *sigh* compulsively doing something that blocks them from making a NK). I'm assuming someone having an invention would still show as vanilla but if that's not what you got on them it's worth double-checking.

I have vanilla clears on both of them and I checked that someone with an invention would still give a vanilla result because their role is still vanilla, they just have a thing now

[Hu Tao]

Elements please claim. Can you do more jail keeps?

2-shot simple compulsive combined jailkeep vanilla cop

dave N1, you N2

Oh, just seeing this. Interesting. Your vanilla cop got results on both of them? Vanilla should be a clear because remaining scum is godfather/backup into inventor (or *sigh* compulsively doing something that blocks them from making a NK). I'm assuming someone having an invention would still show as vanilla but if that's not what you got on them it's worth double-checking.

I have vanilla clears on both of them and I checked that someone with an invention would still give a vanilla result because their role is still vanilla, they just have a thing now

Can you do the honour of hammering?

[Thomith]

If we're ready I'll hammer.
Sorry I haven't really been about.

[Duelist Kage]

Should be fine.

[Hu Tao]

Anyone can tbh

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

Vengekill Hu Tao

[Duelist Kage]

Thanks for taking over the doomed scum slot, Enchant!

[Enchant]

Thanks for taking over the doomed scum slot, Enchant!

I was real vengeful tho

[Enchant]

Did i ever lie to you?

[Hu Tao]

Yes