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[Flavor Leaf]

This one thinks Dragon is

maybe

town but holy shit is this Gamma scumread contrived.

lol maybe town yet he’s the only one that one answered questions for really

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma has no reason to come in and disrupt the status quo the way they have unless they are specifically scum WITH Kyouko, so it always makes sense Kyouko first

IMO dragon getting on the gamma wagon with kyouku reeks of scum trying to get on a wagon with an imminent townflip. I obviously scumread dragon, and I find it hard to see scum dragon getting on a wagon with scum kyouku when kyouku is probably about to be elimed. VOTE: Dragon

it's not tunneling if ur right

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

I would prefer gamma here. But I don't think we have the votes to do so.

VOTE: gamma

Let's try

Gamma/Kyouko being partnered would naturally lend towards Gamma coming in to

save

Kyouko rather than

kill

her, but right now Kyouko is sitting on E-1 with Gamma on the wagon and Kyouko is now trying to pivot onto Gamma, so methink it's just Kyouko here or else, if they're partnered, the plan has completely and irreversibly fucked up somehow.

If they are both scum, it’s a distancing plan now.

Yeah you're probably right, but you're also right that in this case we still should just flip Kyouko first lmao

I just don’t think Gamma is scum.

Kyouko’s posts have a lot of subtle manipulation in them, like saying I’m preflip associating you, when I’ve just come to town read HPE. I didn’t scum read Kyouko then go “HPE must be town because of it!”

Dragon, HPE, and Hu Tao all trying to shade Gamma.

Gamma and I were aligning at this time.

Gamma vs Dragon was happening too

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Gamma makes absolutely no sense as scum here and to disrupt the status quo like they did is just silly.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, Dragon claimed a confirmable role on Day 2.

And had no way of knowing there would be zero kills.

That was fully setup and I called the gambit out ahead of time.

It’s Dragon and Hu Tao.

[Flavor Leaf]

And it’s not even confirmed

You wanna know what’s confirmed?

My vig kill.

The two are not the same.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Gamma is town, it’s probably Hu Tao, but that’s the split I don’t think matters too much today. Gamma claim first is good

[Flavor Leaf]

Just waiting for that JK scum claim.

If Dragon is JK, and targeted me, they’re scum gambiting, no killing, by the way. I have a feeling it’s coming, i hope not, but yeah.

If Dragon is JK, and targeted me, they’re scum gambiting, no killing, by the way. I have a feeling it’s coming, i hope not, but yeah.

I don’t fully believe that happened, and i should have probs waited, but i was thinking about this since yesterday, and think there’s reason to get this out before a potential claim.

That’s a game winning gambit in a scumDragon scenario if that claim is believed.

CALLED THAT SHIT

[Flavor Leaf]

JK isn’t confirmable, though, in that regard, so I’m just being paranoid probably.

I genuinely do want to trust Dragon, but that would be such an untrustworthy move with no motives but faking self confirmation and protecting scum.

Like this would have just made Kyouko’s death less worth, which doesn’t line up with their attitude of Kyouko if they’re coming from a town perspective.

The Vig shot was coming from a slot of knowing Kyouko was town, exactly where Dragon wanted me to be yesterday.

The big reason of the Kyouko fade was to line up a solid vig kill.

I just don’t see JK as confirmable at all.

But this is all stuff I was thinking about on Day 2.

This is why Jailing me makes zero sense from a town Dragon perspective that night.

Dragon tried for ages to get me to see Kyouko as town. The flip, I did. And they jailed me, stopping me from shooting HPE, who I clearly stated was scum if Kyouko was town.

[Flavor Leaf]

hpe/gamma/geraint that is
all of them i sr so it tracks lol

Not a coincidence CW didn’t have nearly as much heat on him this day phase with these reads

[Hu Tao]

I will never vote Pav against on Day 5.

If you are able to get 4 votes on Pav, this proves that scum are on the wagon based on me being conf town.

Hu Tao/Dragon/Geraint all are willing to vote Pav.

Pav is voting Purple, this would probably mean Purple is willing to vote Pav.

I believe this means that scum are always on that wagon, and yeah, it could be a bus, but i don’t see it.

I messed up voting my gut soul read on Roden recently, and ended in a gamestate that was lost.

I won’t do it here.

Lose this one on your own.

VOTE: Hu Tao

I'm getting flashbacks

[Flavor Leaf]

Nah, I’m done switching.

If you’re town, Hu Tao, Dragon pocketed the fuck out of you, and you look absolutely terrible on VCA with 3 confirmed towns on you yesterday.

[Hu Tao]

Explain how they pocketed me?

[Flavor Leaf]

Pav just would have won had they killed Dragon probably, if scum.

There is no reason to keep a claimed JK alive at this point in the game free over Random Nurse for Pav.

Pav LOST a vote this day phase that would be on their side + risks getting jailed in the future.

No.

[Flavor Leaf]

Explain how they pocketed me?

you explain your zero read evolution on them. It’s your read.

[Flavor Leaf]

Frankly, I’m okay losing to a Scum Pav based on how little you two have given when I’ve actively begged and begged for reasons all game.

Y’all act like I can’t meet halfway, i tried running a marathon to meet with yall

[Flavor Leaf]

And the fact that both Dragon and Hu Tao main pushes in CW and Gamma on Day both flipped town when they were my Day 2 town reads says everything I need to know.

It was YOU 2 that needed to come and meet with me, not the other way around, and I was a fool trying to connect so hard with the two blank walling.

[Flavor Leaf]

If town lose this game voting Pav, so be it.

I will not have any part of it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Meaning 100% scum have to vote Pav this game for Pav to get faded.

[Flavor Leaf]

And if Pav gets bussed as scum….well, I have a Vig shot.


Also, another thing with Dragon who is so against my reads.


WHY DO THEY NOT JUST LET ME DIE ON NIGHT 2 OR NIGHT 3.

[DragonEater70]

Why does Pav kill CW over Dragon here actually?

UNVOTE: Pav

That doesn’t make sense

cw is a no info lim so...

[DragonEater70]

4.10

Pavowski (3) - Hu Tao, DragonEater70, geraintm
Hu Tao (3) -

Gamma Emerald, Random Nurse, Flavor Leaf

Not Voting (2) - Pavowski, Purplemango

Meeeeh

This is so rough for Hu Tao.

Wait

[DragonEater70]

Actually how come this wasn't hammered

@Pav didn't you say that you settled on Black because you just wanted a lim? Why didn't you vote HT there?

[DragonEater70]

UNVOTE:

[DragonEater70]

Geraint i low key been saying you’re town

What you doing.

I think it’s Hu Tao Purple or Pav Hu Tao.

The fact that he is going against you while you townread him proves he's town. It's the complete opposite of Pav who has been catering to you the entire fucking game. But more importantly than proving he is town, it shows his conviction in his solve which is as strong as mine and as strong as HT's. I don't think this level of conviction is based on a pocket, I think we genuinely found each other as town.

I don’t see where he is going against me?

I see him pushing it as Hu Tao/Purple? I was pushing Hu Tao/Pav, he can’t push that.

He wanted Purple yesterday too. I think Purple was the other option yesterday at the end of the day.


And everything you are saying here, I can say the same about Pav.

Reread his post? He literally said he won't be pushing HT today unless I am blind or something.

[DragonEater70]

Did Flavor actually monologue all of page 150

Damn

This is not a discredit, Flavor, just damn.