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[Pavowski]

Bloop.

[Hu Tao]

Or if he's scum we lose regardless unless we vote scum here

[Pavowski]

Cop and Vig vs Roleblocker Goon Goon does feel alright too.

In theory, if scum goes down day 1, they could lose on Day 2 with Guilty/Vig, so power is fine.

Cop, Vig, Jailkeeper vs Blocker Goon Goon still works, I think, but a lot stronger for scum. It could be 2 PR’s on scum in that case, a Blocker and then a 1-shot BP or something.

So setup wise, I can see Dragon either way.

Idk. I’m torn.

I just don't think agonizing over the mech gets us anywhere. Except to say that if Dragon is legit and we yeet him today, that's the game, cuz you'll be blocked and killed tonight.

Maybe if we yeet anybody not named Dragon and he attempts to use his jk as a block instead, but there's no guarantee that works.

We just have to take a leap of faith on him one way or another. I would rather go Purple or Hu Tao.

No, this doesn't work. If we mislim today and Dragon is scum, scum!Dragon just jails you and kills anybody else for the lolz.

Leap of faith.

Fuck.

[Pavowski]

Or if he's scum we lose regardless unless we vote scum here

Yeah.

[Pavowski]

Presumably if we limmed Dragon and you die tonight, we'd be in mountainous from there out right? With hopefully 1 scum left to find out of ... what ... we'd have 5 alive tomorrow?

Shit if Dragon is scum and you shoot true the game could end tonight

Putting mech issues behind us *does* sound tempting, and we'll have to solve the question of Dragon sooner or later anyway

No need to rush it though.

I remember when this was possible. It was too good for this game, though. We had to do this to ourselves. We were all so innocent then

[Pavowski]

Geraint voting alongside their main scum read Pav is baaaaaaaad. Purely a saving Black vote.

No, Purple was where I was before Pav, but at that time no one else wanted it. All I am.doing is moving my vote back where it was

*Sigh* Gera is town, isn't he

Purple/Hu Tao/Dragon 2/3 scum

Hello darkness, my old friend

[Flavor Leaf]

If dragon is scum, we have to fade them today.

We are in leap of faith situation no matter what.

End of the day, we need 4 townies on one person to hit scum without bussing.

[geraintm]

Going to look at different people's voting
1st up Pav

Day 1 - Voted town all day
Day 2 - hoped on and off town SSBM a few times
Day 3 - was off the scum wagon, only voted town.
Day 4 - on Hu Toa, including 4.8 when the 4 other votes were all town. Jumped off after this, some votes for Purple Mango and then on town Black at the end

Have I mentioned I hate this game?

I swear on my rug, if Hu Tao is scum here...

VOTE: Black I hate to lim somebody who just repped in but I'm gonna sheep it, y'all can scumread me for it tomorrow. If this flips red it'll be worth it

Who's the other scum with HT, Black?

that was their vote on black.
Day 5 had an early vote on....Purple?

I hate this Vote History

[geraintm]

Purple's voting

Day 1 - didn't vote
Day 2 - didn't vote
Day 3 - hammerd scum
Day 4 - only vote was hammer town

Day 5 - thinks i am pretty scummy!

This slot i dislike a lot. have people played with them before, have they ever been this sit backish, happy to go along with town doing all the work getting rid of other town?

[DragonEater70]

HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING

I thought today was Melo but actually, if scum quickhammers a townie today, Flavor and I jail/vig randomly between the quickhammerers. I have 50% chance to stop the kill. If scum blocks me, then Flavor has 100% chance to kill scum. If scum blocks Flavor it's 50% chance to stop the kill and 50% chance to lose. If scum blocks neither, we have 75% chance to either block the kill or kill scum.

Which means hammer tests are completely useless.

What this ALSO means is if we can lock one person as town (I'm leaning on that one person being geraint), then even if we miselim today we still have 50% to win.

Also if we miselim Flavor NEVER shoots me because if I'm scum I just block him and win, so for his shot to go through I have to be town.

[DragonEater70]

Flavor, do you reckon Pav/Hu Tao has any viability as a scum team? Because if not I'd like to just go Purple (assuming we decide Geraint is locktown).

[geraintm]

Hu Toa

Day 1 - 1st vote was on HPE, then Gamma and was off Town wagon at the end of the day
Day 2 - began with Gamma, then switched for CW, then no vote and then 4th vote on SSBM [Pav was the vote after scum HPE, Hu Toa was 2nd vote after scum HPE]

Day 3 - 2nd vote on HPE
Day 4 - voted me! then Pav,

Votecount 4.8

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate. Day 4 ends in 4 days, 6 hours, 30 minutes (frozen).

Votecount

Hu Tao (4)

- Pavowski, Gamma Emerald, Flavor Leaf, Random Nurse

Pavowski (2)

- Hu Tao, DragonEater70

Purplemango (1)

- geraintm

Not Voting (1)

- Purplemango

this is vote 4.8

they have 4 votes on them. 3 are town and 1 is Pav
if they are town and i know i am town, there are 2 scum in slots Pav, Dragoneater and Purple mango. it would have taken 1 scum from the Dragon/Purple pair (because at least 1 has to be scum) to finish off Hu Toa.
But it didn't happen

Votecount 4.10

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate. Day 4 ends in 4 days, 6 hours, 30 minutes (frozen).

Votecount

Pavowski (3)

- Hu Tao, DragonEater70, geraintm

Hu Tao (3)

- Gamma Emerald, Random Nurse, Flavor Leaf

Not Voting (2)

- Pavowski, Purplemango

that is vote 4.10
HU Toa has 3 town votes on them. Pav has 3 votes on them (one is me who is town). scum could have gotten one of Pav or Hu toa over the line here if they wanted - remember if Hu Toa is town then there are 2 scum in Dragon, Pav and Purple - either Dragon can vote Hu toa with his partner, or the 2 scum not voting anyone can vote hu toa.

it didn't happen

Day 4 wagons on Pav and Hu toa all collapse and we end up with Black/Gamma going

i dunno, i don't hate their votes as much as the others, but day 4 and them not going and scum taking their sweet time to get rid of Gamma/Black when Hu Toa or Pav were there for the taking earlier on just makes me wonder what was going on.

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: Dragon

???????

[DragonEater70]

Cop and Vig vs Roleblocker Goon Goon does feel alright too.

In theory, if scum goes down day 1, they could lose on Day 2 with Guilty/Vig, so power is fine.

Cop, Vig, Jailkeeper vs Blocker Goon Goon still works, I think, but a lot stronger for scum. It could be 2 PR’s on scum in that case, a Blocker and then a 1-shot BP or something.

So setup wise, I can see Dragon either way.

Idk. I’m torn.

I just don't think agonizing over the mech gets us anywhere. Except to say that if Dragon is legit and we yeet him today, that's the game, cuz you'll be blocked and killed tonight.

Maybe if we yeet anybody not named Dragon and he attempts to use his jk as a block instead, but there's no guarantee that works.

We just have to take a leap of faith on him one way or another. I would rather go Purple or Hu Tao.

Fuck, am I actually townreading Pav now? No fucking way

[Purplemango]

Purple's voting

Day 1 - didn't vote
Day 2 - didn't vote
Day 3 - hammerd scum
Day 4 - only vote was hammer town

Day 5 - thinks i am pretty scummy!

This slot i dislike a lot. have people played with them before, have they ever been this sit backish, happy to go along with town doing all the work getting rid of other town?

On day 3 it was also my only vote, not that it helps my case
I guess I usually talk a lot more, but it's more exhausting to write here
Its also need to be actual meaningful things and not just random bullshit that complicates the matter

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor, do you reckon Pav/Hu Tao has any viability as a scum team? Because if not I'd like to just go Purple (assuming we decide Geraint is locktown).

I marinated on it, i don’t think it’s impossible

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that was one of my pairings Day 4 of I was wrong on Pav, and that’s what Black ended up on by the end of it

[DragonEater70]

Oh yeah

That was also what I was thinking would be the solve if I was wrong on Black on Day 4. I think. Then I saw the hammer abd decided Purple was scum.

Purple, why did you hammer?

[Flavor Leaf]

I have no clue who scum is lol

[Flavor Leaf]

Like i literally town read all yall, and everything i got is just paranoia tin foils.

But some of my paranoia tin foils are correct

[DragonEater70]

I know your struggle Flavor

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Dragon

???????

What?

[DragonEater70]

??????????????

[Hu Tao]

What's wrong with me thinking you might be scum?

[DragonEater70]

The fact there is no reasoning attached?