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[Hu Tao]

I do think it's possible that I needed a reset. And its not like scum can quick vote right now so I don't see the issue of voting you at the moment dragon

The issue is not with voting me, it's with the lack of reasoning. But you know what, I'll let you have a reset.

I think I might need a reset myself.

Hu Tao hasn’t given reasons for majority of her reads all game, why is it only now bothering you?

We had to deal with that all game.

Yeah that's why I was confused

[Flavor Leaf]

Dragon, you feel like Bingle in that game, and it’s really hard for me to shake that.

I also realized in that game that Bingle, RCE, and Naerys was a scum team that was always gonna play around me specifically.

Bingle and RCE are the two on site who have been able to identify town me the best over the years, and play scum me. Then Naerys, well, I called them out early for not giving me jabs and i took their “trying to not do that” to heart that game. Naerys wrecked me there.


I don’t think Pav is Naerys, but i feel you’re Bingle.

Sorry Geraint/Pav/Purple for talking about a game yall don’t know, but i think it helps for Hu Tao/Myself/Dragon to possibly get on same page if so, which i guess yall don’t want anyways but yeah

[Flavor Leaf]

And frankly, Hu Tao feels like Hu Tao that game.

Like every inkling in my body wants to take Hu Tao out. Even then turning on Dragon when they did. But like…that could be Hu Tao, and it’s Tuesday, so they’re probably town.

[Ausuka]

Votecount 5.2

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes to eliminate. Day 5 ends in (expired on 2024-01-30 19:27:15).

Votecount

DragonEater70 (1)

- Hu Tao

Hu Tao (1)

- Flavor Leaf

Purplemango (1)

- Pavowski

Not Voting (3)

- DragonEater70, geraintm, Purplemango

Flavour

[Pavowski]

And frankly, Hu Tao feels like Hu Tao that game.

Like every inkling in my body wants to take Hu Tao out. Even then turning on Dragon when they did. But like…that could be Hu Tao, and it’s Tuesday, so they’re probably town.

Sorry, was Hu Tao town in this game you're referencing?

I don't mind you using it to frame this situation, it just obviously isn't gonna help me much.

[Pavowski]

Okay, full disclosure.

I don’t have more vig shots. I was 2-shot.

It’s another reason I was skeptical of Dragon with them claiming 2-shot earlier and then retracting.

So if we misfade, we lose.

If dragon is scum and we misfade, we lose.

If dragon is town and we misfade, he could potentially jail the killer or protect the kill target... Right?

[Hu Tao]

Okay, full disclosure.

I don’t have more vig shots. I was 2-shot.

It’s another reason I was skeptical of Dragon with them claiming 2-shot earlier and then retracting.

So if we misfade, we lose.

If dragon is scum and we misfade, we lose.

If dragon is town and we misfade, he could potentially jail the killer or protect the kill target... Right?

If he's town then scum just shoot him.

[Flavor Leaf]

And frankly, Hu Tao feels like Hu Tao that game.

Like every inkling in my body wants to take Hu Tao out. Even then turning on Dragon when they did. But like…that could be Hu Tao, and it’s Tuesday, so they’re probably town.

Sorry, was Hu Tao town in this game you're referencing?

I don't mind you using it to frame this situation, it just obviously isn't gonna help me much.

Yeah, Hu Tao was town, and I needed to get 3 out of 3 scum in that game, and I got 2 out of 3 because I was wrong on Hu Tao and pocketed by the outsider scum Naerys.

[DragonEater70]

If dragon is town and we misfade, he could potentially jail the killer or protect the kill target... Right?

With Flavor claiming 2-Shot, I can no longer jail the killer.

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, full disclosure.

I don’t have more vig shots. I was 2-shot.

It’s another reason I was skeptical of Dragon with them claiming 2-shot earlier and then retracting.

So if we misfade, we lose.

If dragon is scum and we misfade, we lose.

If dragon is town and we misfade, he could potentially jail the killer or protect the kill target... Right?

Well, if Dragon is town, scum has a roleblocker.

Why didn’t they just block Dragon and kill?

I just really feel Dragon should have been killed by now if town. I don’t really think counting on me to push Dragon was a decent strategy?

Maybe it was, but I’ve consistently not ended up pushing Dragon through, like 3 days in a row.

[DragonEater70]

Why didn’t they just block Dragon and kill?

Kill who? Me?
I have no idea why, I guess because they did hope I'd get misfaded eventually?
You? Probably because they thought you had more shots.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like dragon can also fake “confirm” himself again as scum with another no kill and sweep the game if scum.

I don’t really think a stop kill is good for this game.

Like maybe, yeah, but still.

On that end, if Dragon is scum and no kills 3 nights in one game, that’s kind of a thing of legends

[Flavor Leaf]

Why didn’t they just block Dragon and kill?

Kill who? Me?
I have no idea why, I guess because they did hope I'd get misfaded eventually?
You? Probably because they thought you had more shots.

Yeah, I get it that way too.

[Flavor Leaf]

I can literally town case every player here.

Like…at this point, I’m just scum playing a killer scum game. (That is my default, can’t help it

But still.

Maybe I have to go in and actually go about town casing every player.

Because I see the scum cases for EVERYONE too.

I am also in the dreaded IC position.

I really thought I’d just die and get my shot on HPE.

But it was a fun game.

[DragonEater70]

I mean, go for it. Towncase everyone.

[DragonEater70]

Btw Flavor

My recent scumgame just finished where I was obvscum

I won't dispute that I have the potential to be good at scum, but right now I am not in the correct real life mindset to be able to confidently play scum. So I think if you compare the differences, you can see that I am clearly outside of my scumrange this game.

Also, Hu Tao you should know that. In that game you spotted me as scum immediately. How the fuck do you think I can be scum this game.

[DragonEater70]

Game in question: viewtopic.php?t=92097

[DragonEater70]

Like I don't think I am out of my scumrange of all time, I think I am out of my scumrange for the months November through January where I sucked hard at playing scum due to real life.

[DragonEater70]

I also sucked at playing town tbh

As I said I will be taking a few months hiatus after this game ends.

[DragonEater70]

But yeah Hu Tao is good at reading me and her thinking I'm scum here is a big wtf.

[geraintm]

Look, is it ... Is it *crazy* to consider no-lim today?

scum would shoot one of the 'confirmed' town slots, and we would still be shooting in the same small pool.

[geraintm]

I can literally town case every player here.

Like…at this point, I’m just scum playing a killer scum game. (That is my default, can’t help it

But still.

Maybe I have to go in and actually go about town casing every player.

Because I see the scum cases for EVERYONE too.

I am also in the dreaded IC position.

I really thought I’d just die and get my shot on HPE.

But it was a fun game.

at this stage, i have as town you, Dragon and me.

as far as i can tell, i think Flavour are 99% on that too. and if i am scum (which i ain't, i think i've done a pretty good job this game as appearing more and more townie as the game goes on and not doing anything scummy and your read on me Flavour has progressed like it normally does) i don't think you can beat Scum me. if there was a sudden wagon forming on me would be hella sus.

so, to me,i think there are 2 scum in the Purplemango, Hu Tao & Pavowski pool and we just need to shoot right twice to get the win.

Is that a fair summary of the game state? do either of Flavour or Dragon disagree?
because if this isn't how the game is going to proceed then i am at a loss.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah if dragon is town, that is how i would see it

[DragonEater70]

I can literally town case every player here.

Like…at this point, I’m just scum playing a killer scum game. (That is my default, can’t help it

But still.

Maybe I have to go in and actually go about town casing every player.

Because I see the scum cases for EVERYONE too.

I am also in the dreaded IC position.

I really thought I’d just die and get my shot on HPE.

But it was a fun game.

at this stage, i have as town you, Dragon and me.

as far as i can tell, i think Flavour are 99% on that too. and if i am scum (which i ain't, i think i've done a pretty good job this game as appearing more and more townie as the game goes on and not doing anything scummy and your read on me Flavour has progressed like it normally does) i don't think you can beat Scum me. if there was a sudden wagon forming on me would be hella sus.

so, to me,i think there are 2 scum in the Purplemango, Hu Tao & Pavowski pool and we just need to shoot right twice to get the win.

Is that a fair summary of the game state? do either of Flavour or Dragon disagree?
because if this isn't how the game is going to proceed then i am at a loss.

I don't disagree, I even proposed a plan based on townlocking you back when I thought Flavor could still shoot.

[geraintm]

So, who we think is clean among Purple, Hu Toa and Pav and why? I tried to work it out but I didn't come to a final decision