Mafia Reunion | Postgame

[Aureal]

I'd say it's a bit questionable for Hu, since the claim was after you checked her, and after the potential conversion we'd be worried about. She could've gotten new flavor that she claimed which was what you saw, and just lied about the not getting caught referring to her power going away when it's actually some cult flavor. I guess it's hard for me to gauge how well the flavor matches since you're the one who has the exact wording.

And I guess you didn't mention the flavor until after she claimed, I think? So she'd have had to match her actions and flavor without knowing her flavor was out... so yeah I guess pretty unlikely.

[JacksonVirgo]

Mod: Which comes first? Investigations or culting?

Game uses NAR so recruit happens first

While I believe you, I need to hear it from the mod.

Valid

[Aureal]

Hey Jackson, is there any restrictions on your coffee? Like, does it double only non-factional actions?

I just give a coffee, and if they drink it they can use an extra action the following night. In normal game terms it's Novice Non-Consecutive and I give it during the day, so pretty much just every even day.

So if you gave it to someone with a conversion action they would be able to convert twice?

Doesn't explicitly say it wouldn't, but I doubt it just cuz of the nature of it

I doubt it too but could you check? If it does work for the factional action that's basically an autoclear for Leaf and Theta, as no way would they get a double action then not use it to get an extra convert to end the game sooner.

[JacksonVirgo]

Will let you know

[Titus]

If we suppose that

Hu Tao and Roden are living converts, that leaves

Dan, Drew, Flavor, Thomlith, Theta, Aureal, JV and myself as group scum.

I'm town.
Theta is unlikely to claim a guilty on a partner.
JV is likely town via names and must be town if Dan or Theta is scum.
Aureal isn't scum unless it's precisely an Aureal/FL team recruiting Roden or FL is wrong again.

Me, JV, Theta, Aureal, FL, Dan OR Drew leaves Thomlith as final scum which doesn't feel right unless the timing was to disrupt my names.

Let's suppose Roden group scum.
Theta is absolutely town.
Hu Tao is still converted.
JV still names town but possible n4 convert.
I'm town.
Dan or Drew is town.

This leaves Aureal, FL, Thomlith.
FL can be converted N4 with Aureal group scum.

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Suppose Dan group scum,

Then Aureal and Theta must be town.
If Theta is town, Roden must be scum of somesort.
If Roden is the n4 convert, JV must be town.

If Dan scum, Roden n4 convert then FL, Aureal, Drew, JV, Theta, me as town.

This leaves Thomlith and FL again. FL likely doesn't bus Dan here. Thomlith scum.

-----Theta scum---
Dan must be town. Aureal must be town.
Theta scum doesn't fake a guilty on Roden so Roden not group scum.

Hu Tao's result was likely accurate but lied about not being able to act anymore as Gamma would push with a guilty.

Dan town, Aureal town, me town, JV likely town
Hu Tao scum, Drew group scum, Theta scum...FL or Thomlith scum
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Drew scum.

Covered in Theta scum.

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FL scum

Dan town (can't see FL bussing here)
JV town
Me town
Hu Tao scum
Roden or Theta scum
Therefore Aureal and Thomlith must be town due to too many scum problem.

TLDR: If Maestro n1 convert and Hu Tao n2 convert, logical guess is FL and Thomlith are opposing alignments.

Aureal can only be scum in precisely, Drew scum, FL wrong, Roden partner and fifty fifty. This is the only setup I can think of where FL and Thomlith share an alignment.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am also novice and non consecutive with my action, and it is not labeled as that, so I tend to believe JV is telling the truth, and there aren’t more missing coffee actions that went unclaimed, if that’s even a thing people were thinking about.

Who did you check n4?

Aureal. I claimed it when i came in, and why Aureal and Hu Tao can’t be converted scum based on my info from today.

Ok. I think you're wrong on Hu Tao. "Don't get caught" = scum converted imo.

I am in a world where Maestro was the n1 converted and Gamma/Hu Tao was the n2 convert. Roden or Theta is the n4 convert and the other town. Doesn't solve group scum but it gets us closer.

We need to identify who is good and narrow down patterns.

Can you say Aureal's flavor FL?
Sorry if the mech is overload.

Says multiple lines about obsessing over autographs, or like crazed fan kinda thing and then she will follow him to their doom.

I don’t think it says the word obsessing, but it’s like those 4-5 lines, first half chants about wanting autographs, last says the follow to their doom

[Flavor Leaf]

Will let you know

I originally thought it wouldn’t effect conversion, but knowing coffee isn’t forever, it could be a thing scum try to get for their actions.

Getting an extra action is nice even if it doesn’t, though.

I feel like my targeting of Hu Tao slot after Gamma claimed Ascetic doesn’t make sense as a scum move.

I only did it because I had the 2nd action too.

[Titus]

Meh, FL that kinda sounds wrong again.

Aureal scum, Drew scum, Roden scum, Hu Tao scum
Dan town, Theta town, me town, JV town, Thomlith town, FL town

That's possible

[ActionDan]

My scum flowchart from your perspective Titus is actually quite simple with a FL town assumption.

Dan scum, Roden convert, Hu group , Jv convert.

We have to assume thomith town regardless in this gamestate.

Drew's chart has a couple more branches / possibilities

[Titus]

My scum flowchart from your perspective Titus is actually quite simple with a FL town assumption.

Dan scum, Roden convert, Hu group , Jv convert.

We have to assume thomith town regardless in this gamestate.

Drew's chart has a couple more branches / possibilities

Huh?

You have too many converts. There should have been no convert the night of the dance party.

I don't get why Thomlith town. Almost all my theories have Thomlith as group scum by PoE.

[Doctor Drew]

Meh, FL that kinda sounds wrong again.

Aureal scum, Drew scum, Roden scum, Hu Tao scum
Dan town, Theta town, me town, JV town, Thomlith town, FL town

That's possible

Aureal has been all in my shit since the day start

My scum flowchart from your perspective Titus is actually quite simple with a FL town assumption.

Dan scum, Roden convert, Hu group , Jv convert.

We have to assume thomith town regardless in this gamestate.

Drew's chart has a couple more branches / possibilities

So you are saying it is me vs you?

[ActionDan]

Yes Drew I think it has to be.

@Titus we should have a convert from N1 or N2 (whatever night maestro wasn't converted) plus last night N4. And 2 group scum for a total of 4.

[ActionDan]

Thomith town as if he wasn't another convert from n3 would mean we'd be at 5v5 right now.

[Aureal]

Titus starting from the supposition that Hu and Roden are converts is very wtf

[Aureal]

Like, I don't have time to go in-depth evaluating all that solving breakdown right now but just a skim makes me feel there's not even much point in trying. Don't know where the conclusions come from.

[Titus]

Yes Drew I think it has to be.

@Titus we should have a convert from N1 or N2 (whatever night maestro wasn't converted) plus last night N4. And 2 group scum for a total of 4.

I don't think I see a world where Hu wasn't converted as the result seems bogus and the flavor claim of "don't get caught" is scummy.

Hu has been dead bang useless since subbing in. Gamma appeared town. Could be group scum, sure but I doubt it.

Lastly, using an ability to silence investigatives, particularly mine, after a scumflip doesn't feel too townish.

[Titus]

Titus starting from the supposition that Hu and Roden are converts is very wtf

Hu convert, Roden evil of somesort.

Still doesn't directly solve Dan v Drew.

Roden v Theta contains 1 evil

at least

.
Hu's claim is bogus.
JV can only be N4 convert.
It sorts itself from there.

[Aureal]

Meh, FL that kinda sounds wrong again.

Aureal scum, Drew scum, Roden scum, Hu Tao scum
Dan town, Theta town, me town, JV town, Thomlith town, FL town

That's possible

Aureal has been all in my shit since the day start

What does this mean??

[ActionDan]

Thomith role may only specially work that way with yours Titus. I can see the mod taking away free info in exchange for a convertless night.

[Titus]

Thomith role may only specially work that way with yours Titus. I can see the mod taking away free info in exchange for a convertless night.

Well, in your universe shouldn't Roden have a nightless self-watch as well? Theta no action? Not just me.

[Theta Alpine]

i have been under the impression drew and dan were town for most of the game so

let me think about this if it actually is between them

[Theta Alpine]

thomiths role does let me get a non-consecutive night out of the way with the way it played out this game
honestly i thought my role might only be getting one or two usages at the start of the game and now it has turned out to be two + one from coffee so

[ActionDan]

I cannot say why the mod has specifically chosen you to be effected by a restless night. Roden's role is useful 1 time only, FL and Theta have natural restrictions already being novices and non-consecutive actioners. Aureal is stuck following one person forever.

Sadly I have found it difficult to outguess the mod this game

[Titus]

thomiths role does let me get a non-consecutive night out of the way with the way it played out this game
honestly i thought my role might only be getting one or two usages at the start of the game and now it has turned out to be two + one from coffee so

You act on which nights?

[Doctor Drew]

Meh, FL that kinda sounds wrong again.

Aureal scum, Drew scum, Roden scum, Hu Tao scum
Dan town, Theta town, me town, JV town, Thomlith town, FL town

That's possible

Aureal has been all in my shit since the day start

What does this mean??

Objectively we can't be buddies I mean, since you have been riding me hard.....at least earlier today