JOAT uPick | FIN!

[lemon.tangerine]

Omgus is nai

I concur. It is a natural reaction when one doubts your revolutionary spirit to lash back with harsh words and accusations. But while nai, it should be still noted in the annals of history in case a pattern of desperate flailing occurs.

Noting things down, and accusing someone for being a wolf because of omgus are conpletely different.

Hope you get the memo on that

[lemon.tangerine]

Anyway since i don't have a reason not to ill town titus here and maid

[Laplacian]

Anyway inregards to our setup (i read someone posted it about being alot of 1-shot abilities which ofc it is lol) Id say that alot of ppl probably have much more creative abilities than on other forums.

Just a rumour i heard that setups are often more creative on mafiascum, sooo im expecting ppl to be doing more than complain abt union leaders lol

Aka throw nukes everywhere ty <3

Also n1 actions are gonna be p chaotic i assume bc 14 ppl all using joat actions lol (yes 15-1 is 14 after wagon)

So like what happens if everyone just kills another player?

Our noble group is 17 players, not 15. Likewise, we are blessed with a suite of one shots, made abundantly clear in the pre-game literature. Yet, this post is casual, nay, skeptical, about the existence of our one shots. Observe the hedging: "I read someone posted it", "a rumor", "probably have much more creative abilities". Our JOAT abilities were clear from the moment we signed up for the union!

COMRADES! I ask of you, why would a hard-working member of the proletariat ignore their unique skills and abilities? They would not. JOAT abilities are our way of interacting with the world, our way of finding information, our way of aiding and protecting allies, our way of furthering the perpetual march of progress! To ignore our skills is anathema to everything we stand for!

Therefore, there can be only one conclusion. Lemon.tangerine is a perfidious union-buster, as sour as his name. He has ignored his innate skills to focus on another ability, one shared with all scum. Murder.

VOTE: lemon.tangerine

Actually doesn’t this suggest otherwise? Omitting 2 players assumes 3-men team and if my brain still works correctly 17p usually has 4-men team, no?

I would indeed expect a 13-4 split; the foul bourgeoise would have sent no less than that to try, futile though it may be, to shatter our noble spirits. No, Lemon's omission of two comrades is a minor error that I would expect from distraction; instead the smoking gun of their perfidy comes from the skepticism of abilities. Reread their first sentence and tell me that it is not hedging, that is not feigned nonchalance. While the braying of Bell's possible slip still rings in our ears, lemon's words offer a far more damning perspective.

Yup, you and joyboy teamed.

Now maybe Bell, maybe TMI. Still you two are likely scum.

Bell's probably the lim so why fight it?

Was this not Titus' initial reason for calling you mafia? While It's not exactly a thesis paper, I hardly think it's entirely a snap decision to call you mafia NOW with no history of reading you as such prior only after you expressed your own read, Laplacian.

hey titus, as of now could you maybe look somewhere else that isnt bell?

I have. Joyboy and broccoli are acceptable.

Note comrades, that after I call out Titus's words as being anti-union, she now casts aspersions on my vegeacious self! There is no supporting evidence in her words. Engels himself described this very action in his work

Behaviors of the Modern Capitalist

as an "OMGUS"

A simple ISO reveals this to be false.

Apologies comrades, I indeed missed this post in my zeal to root out the anti-unionist scum within us. My speech, while no doubt inspiring to the proletariat masses, requires much concentration and occasionally switching to another tab with a thesaurus. While your suspicion of me is baseless as my revolutionary spirit cannot be denied, your feelings were expressed in the past.

[Bell]

Bell, do you always act this entitled? Genuinely curious.

People are giving me the impression you're so blatantly obvious to read

and you have this entitled air around you. I figured voting you would be funny now I'm just going "lol" about it.

Always? No this is pretty much a mafia only thing. Something about getting pushed as mafia tends to set me off. Probably a trauma thing. I’ve been considering unplugging but it’s difficult for me not to rise to the bait. It’s almost automatic.

[Bell]

And why don’t you read me as town?
Why are you leading with “oh if he’s dead then I can still rely on him for commentary therefore he’s currently the best elimination”
Instead of a reason to scum read me?

I like Pooky's case. Not rocksolid and I asked you for evidence and got crickets.

I’m not giving you evidence of me being gotcha’d and being town. You’ve been playing mafia for years and witnessed it yourself.

[LadyTerminallyOffline]

Anyway since i don't have a reason not to ill town titus here and maid

And so begins the eternal conundrum.... How many town reads become too many?

I have quite a few of them (As in, no reason to call them mafia yet) myself, but they cannot all be town, unless the entire team of mafia happens to be exactly my two dislikes plus the two non-posting players. And that's a fallacy in and of itself, one of hubris if nothing else.

[lemon.tangerine]

k lets copy the players list

Bell gth town
Maid Cafe (hydra of MariaR and Beeboy) null +
HolySpiritTurtle gth town
Laplacian null +
PookyTheMagicalBear null +
Firebringer gth town
LadyTerminallyOffline gth town
Relativistic Harmony (hydra of TemporalLich and RH9) gth town
Titus gth town
Ircher null+

This leaves a poe of
Joyboy
Dunnstral
Hu Tao
Doctor Drew
Sakuna Hana
light_ganski

i don't expect my townreads to be all pure but meh i don't see reasons to doubt them

[lemon.tangerine]

Anyway since i don't have a reason not to ill town titus here and maid

And so begins the eternal conundrum.... How many town reads become too many?

I have quite a few of them (As in, no reason to call them mafia yet) myself, but they cannot all be town, unless the entire team of mafia happens to be exactly my two dislikes plus the two non-posting players. And that's a fallacy in and of itself, one of hubris if nothing else.

Its d1 my reads arent going to be concrete until a flip happens realistically. As much as i love going for fancy plays and whatever its borderline wim killing for me so ye

[LadyTerminallyOffline]

I don't think I know that term. Is that a MafiaScum term?

The "wim" you just mentioned. The wiki says "Want it more"?

[Titus]

And why don’t you read me as town?
Why are you leading with “oh if he’s dead then I can still rely on him for commentary therefore he’s currently the best elimination”
Instead of a reason to scum read me?

I like Pooky's case. Not rocksolid and I asked you for evidence and got crickets.

I’m not giving you evidence of me being gotcha’d and being town. You’ve been playing mafia for years and witnessed it yourself.

Ok, you don't have to TR me? No one's making you. Sure it could be wrong but lower burden of proof and all.

[Titus]

I don't think I know that term. Is that a MafiaScum term?

The "wim" you just mentioned. The wiki says "Want it more"?

Gth = gun to head

[Firebringer]

Bell, do you always act this entitled? Genuinely curious.

People are giving me the impression you're so blatantly obvious to read

and you have this entitled air around you. I figured voting you would be funny now I'm just going "lol" about it.

Bell having a sense of being entitled to townread is hallmark of his town game.
Its really annoying when ur scum and he is town. Cause his sense of entitlement makes pushing him annoying.

[lemon.tangerine]

I don't think I know that term. Is that a MafiaScum term?

The "wim" you just mentioned. The wiki says "Want it more"?

yeah i don't play on mafia scum. Basically wim is a term that explains if how much a said player wants to win and get involved with the game.

High wim = high involvement with the game

low wim = low involvement with the game

[Firebringer]

would love a new vc right about now tbh

Game Moderators have called a strike against the bourgeoise pagetop hoarders.

Labor is entitled to all it creates

I am all for this mod

[lemon.tangerine]

Mod is great ye

[Titus]

Bell, do you always act this entitled? Genuinely curious.

People are giving me the impression you're so blatantly obvious to read

and you have this entitled air around you. I figured voting you would be funny now I'm just going "lol" about it.

Bell having a sense of being entitled to townread is hallmark of his town game.
Its really annoying when ur scum and he is town. Cause his sense of entitlement makes pushing him annoying.

I recall this as scum in a large many moons ago. I'll see if I can find it.

[Titus]

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[Laplacian]

VOTE: Joyboy
Comrades, upon rereading I find Joyboy's roster of pirates and foes in revolutionary pamphlet #567 alarming. As has been called out by the ever-vigilant Doctor Drew and Lady Terminally Online, it included the absent light_ganski as an ally of Joyboy's under flimsy pretenses. Furthermore, the only two foes on the roster were Bell, a safe accusation at the time, and LTO, who is new to this union and its unique quirks. Joyboy then even says that LTO and Bell, his only two suspects are

not

aligned, meaning their read list only truly has one suspect in the end. I fear this incoherent list represents not Joyboy's true feelings, but was hastily built with ulterior motives. Joyboy is trying to deflect suspicion from away from his capitalistic lust for treasure.

[Bell]

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That one I was singularly focused on omgusing you. While having a word restriction.
Wait did I forget if I made up the word restriction.
I don’t remember. But not the same thing.
It’s true, if I must muster up evidence that people have been gotcha’d as town before I’d rather just argue that there is simply no way you could be arguing in good faith and haven’t witnessed it before.

[Ircher]

14 pages already. I'll catch up in a bit

Did this happen?

[Ircher]

LADYTERMINALLYONLINE'S BOUNTY
FIVE HOUNDRED THOUSAND
I'M GONNA FIGHT HER!

Why?

THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST MY CREW ARE LAME!

Who is in your "crew"? Which attacks were lame?

IF UR NAME IS HERE I WANT MEAT
BELL
LADYTERMINALLYOFFLINE
HU TAO
SAKURA HANA
DUNNSTRAL
MAID CAFE (WHERE'S MY ORDER?!?!?!)
RELATIVISTIC YOURMOTHER
LEMON.FOOD

Haven't some of these people already done so?

[Laplacian]

Having revisited the minutes of our last union organizing meeting, I have identified several comrades who I believe are wholly devoted to our grand cause.

LTO: Has made herself a valuable member of this union with quick and intelligent reads
Pooky: A friendly comrade. Pocketed me early, so I must reevaluate in days to come
Dunnstral: While quiet, his words and votes are powerful and strategic
Titus: We may disagree, but she has a strong and confident spirit
Firebringer and Maid Cafe: Veteran union workers alike, whose casual play helps put all our hearts at ease.

I also fervently want to believe that Comrades Ircher and Relativistic Harmony can be trusted, but they have not yet demonstrated enough praxis to enmesh themselves within in my good graces.

Upon Joyboy and lemon.tangerine I have already expressed my doubts. Comrade Bell has also been troublesome to interpret, with actions both noble and base. However, suspicion is edging out. Any of these uncouth hobgoblins I would be happy to drag before a council of peers, as well as those suspiciously absent in discussions or in content.

[Relativistic Harmony]

14 pages already. I'll catch up in a bit

Did this happen?

not yet

pedit: Laplacian's read list appears to have a town mindset behind it so I'm inclined to give Laplacian a town read

-TL

[Bell]

Wasn’t LTO the player that said they thought I was scum because I claimed a miller-like role. That’s really not a quick or intelligent read.

[Bell]

Oh, that was RH. Never mind.
But then LTO have their own issues. I wonder if their time spent breaking down unfamiliar terminology is alignment indicative somehow.
But they contribute enough without it, even if it’s filler. They seem to be getting up to speed. I’m still not sure.