JOAT uPick | FIN!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell, can you do a readslist? Take a position on anyone?

why are you giving him hints lol

I wanted to see how long he could go on without scumhunting

[Titus]

Bell, can you do a readslist? Take a position on anyone?

why are you giving him hints lol

I wanted to see how long he could go on without scumhunting

It's not hints gosh darn it. It's getting associatives.

[Bell]

I have been trying to interpret every player's accusation of me and their defenses from other players pointing out where the math doesn't work out and trying to sift between which ones seem plausible and which ones seem like scum.

I've spoken about pretty much everybody that has taken a position.
I am scum hunting. Just because it's not in a neat reads list doesn't mean it's not there, and just because I don't know which ones are town and which ones are scum doesn't mean I'm afraid to take a position it just means I don't know.

[Titus]

Gun to your head: Any initial thoughts?

[light_ganski]

catchup page 1-5

i am striking against the capitalist overlords by refusing to produce content without compensation

based and breadpilled

agree w the person against day one massclaim bcos I'd prefer us not to give scum the pick of the best roles to kill off

bell's RVS claim (11) seems fine tho ig? idk why people are commenting on this in particular in terms of reads

lady terminally offline sounds like me when I was newbtown AND actually trying to effort (which wasn't often so good for u)

firebringer outed themself as cringe and capitalcucked i remember that part

the next relevant posts are continuing discussion abt bell's softclaim, agree with HST's (52) and disagree with RH's (56), that seems like a weirdly strong scumread considering we are talking about a role madness game and this is RVS. i guess i could see an argument for bell fishing but i don't buy thats whats going on here
continuing from this I don't understand RH's reasoning in (62) at all? why is this a "trivially confirmably scummy" ability pls explain if u haven't already in the posts I haven't read yet

(68) i agree with ircher re miller claims but we *haven't had a miller claim yet*. this is common sense though so saying it doesn't mean much

lots of RVS/RPS fluff I'll sort thru once I have more than like 2 reads

Comrades, while unions are essential for an equitable work environment, it is still fundamentally a capitalist system! Our union is only the beginning! We can seize the means of production and establish an anarcho-syndicalist council to distribute resources democratically!

I salute you comrade

LTO's (110) and (121) also read newbie town putting in effort <3

[light_ganski]

I'll be V/LA til tomorrow evening due to work then I'll be here

Will you be having fun?

sadly not.

[Bell]

I think Laplacian is off. Portrait I tend to find scummy.
I naturally hate Hu Tao's current play.
Titus is off: They're sheeping saying they have multiple theories but didn't answer when I asked them what theories they had or how me dying would help with that or why I seemed like a good elimination based on a perspective slip. I know they're weird, but this is veering into burden of proficiency and they are not jumping over it.
Pooky: BOP. they have one page left.
Ircher: has their own excuses see recent page. It's unclear to me if they're choosing a political landscape, there have been a lot of players that have approached this game with really poor takes so I'm finding it hard to figure out which ones I should actually BOP and which one's I should not. Ircher said it was 50/50 controlling for roll numbers, so there's a big question mark toward why they lean scum.
Relativisitic: Same, leaned scum into a caution preach into you're right Dunn!
Already wrote about Dunnstral and my mixed feelings of them correcting for their interpretation and being generally accurate. It's weird seeing someone cut through the bullshit and articulate themselves better than I could. Maybe they're informed, maybe they had a good opening.
Lemon: Their positioning is unique, it doesn't come off as scummy to me. Some of their approach reminds me specifically of townie things I've seen players or myself do in the past. I'm not sure what advantage they gain by approaching people's reads of me by saying that Pooky's reasoning sucks and changing position on it.
Luffy: I dunno. My patience is running out but I'm not really reading into them. there's only so much focus I can have and they're just kind of randomly voting people. It's normal for me not to focus on everyone.
FB: Characterized my play correctly, their movement or engagement and how they're engaging feels very similar to their town game.

[Bell]

doctor drew is background and I'm just annoyed again. But I dunno.
LTO is slightly off, how the game is engaging with them, how they're engaging with the game. I don't understand why they're drawing people into treating them like they're new, I don't understand why their attention is being placed where it is or intentions. I tend not to let players go by that fill in that sort of "aw shucks, I'm new at this" and "I am a person who hunts, look at me and my statements that show I am hunting and I am relatively straightforward, I have nothing to hide" stereotype that doesn't actually mean anything or make them more scum than anyone else. Hell, they just end up being town. But it's nagging me.
Maid Cafe: I'm just trying to figure out if they're scum off to the side being amused or town curious and trying to correct for personality. Rather, I can't decide.
HSP: Have not looked at them deeply, their initial posts seemed kind of vacuous and unfamiliar to me. They;re developing into something moe traditional and easier to read, but I haven't been focusing n them.
SK: Needs to post more. They do a thing each time they're here. But not very fast. It's minimally responsive, but it doesn't hit wrong.

[Bell]

I don't think I've absorbed a single LT post. They started posting, butmy eyes glazed.

paperpaperpaper get off the game and go back to the paper Bell.

Well that was gun to head reads from Bell town.
I expect my reads will be more nuanced tomorrow when I actually look at the game and not just get offended and go into a doom spiral of omgus.

[light_ganski]

(125) bad vote from joyboy

taking note of the meta read of pooky (127)

i appreciate the commitment to the bit from many people in this thread

VERY strong townread on LTO right now (152), like i don't think this post is *good logic considering the range of metas on the site* and i cannot remember the number of times i've come a cropper because of the "this play isn't helpful so it's scummy" mindset, but in someone completely raw to the site? this is very townie

(156) I want to nulltown pooky but idk if it's just because of tripping up scumreading this type of play before (see above)

161 is a little sus from bell

I actually must sleep so imma stop here for now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell, can you do a readslist? Take a position on anyone?

why are you giving him hints lol

I wanted to see how long he could go on without scumhunting

It's not hints gosh darn it. It's getting associatives.

associatives from how people behave around a caught scum are much more useful than any associatives that originate from said caught scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bell's RVS claim (11) seems fine tho ig? idk why people are commenting on this in particular in terms of reads

if your role is inherently useless why would you ever claim so if you're town

[Bell]

14 posts Pooky.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

14 posts Pooky.

you're terrible at fake entitlement lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gun to your head: Any initial thoughts?

has he written enough antispew for you to be satsified

[Hu Tao]

Okay. I'm finally off work and it's the weekend. Time to catch up

[Bell]

It's slightly refreshing being accused of antispew instead of scummy fence sitting.

[Hu Tao]

Hst town

For a second I thought you meant me and I was like wtf I've done nothing?

do you like townreads on yourself?

Yes, but not when someone would say they think I'm town when I had 2 NAI posts so far

[Hu Tao]

@Pooky any opinions on anyone else yet?

Townreads:

Firebringer
Titus
Laplacian
RelativisticHarmony
HST
LTO

Townleans:
Dunnstral
Lemon
Ircher

Null:
Sakura

Scumlean:
Doctor Drew
Hu Tao
Joyboy

Definitely Scum:
Bell

This is a fake list right? Can I ask why you have a scum lean on me when I had NAI posts so far?

[Bell]

They're going to put you there because you deserve pressure for not existing as other players go up, players that aren't doing anything tend to go down. It's a rat race for scum and even Pooky scum knows that.
Next question

[Hu Tao]

Meh, bottom reads seem right for this phase.
But I’m paranoid of like, everyone. In your higher reads.

Relatisvistic still hasn’t established why they should scum read me for my claim other than that it was a scummy role that I claimed in a townie manner and thus I as scum (the glaring assumption ) did it to get town read.

Then they backpedaled to caution preaching before giving up the ghost when Dunnstral came by.

VOTE: bell

This seems like a post trying to make it seem like you're contributing but not really.

[Bell]

Why are you voting me before catching up all the way

[Hu Tao]

IF UR NAME IS HERE I WANT MEAT
BELL
LADYTERMINALLYOFFLINE
HU TAO
SAKURA HANA
DUNNSTRAL
MAID CAFE (WHERE'S MY ORDER?!?!?!)
RELATIVISTIC YOURMOTHER
LEMON.FOOD

Not this again

[Hu Tao]

I’m not trying to hit my tonal points. My tone is just similar because I’m town.

This isn’t even the first time you’ve done the hah you perspective slipper thing on me Pooky, I’m pretty sure you’ve done it before. On others and it wasn’t true or accurate there either.

Has that ever worked for you?

The first 2 sentences feel off to me

[Bell]

I was trying to get them, RT, to answer me on their initial position, it sounds like it was some kind of abstract story or common sense rumor that doesn't really hold up to scrutiny nor did they need to approach my claimthat way in the first place because it's not really a close enough comparison to a miller claim to fit. it's an open question that I don't think they ever responded to and it doesn't make sense to me.