JOAT uPick | FIN!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You...

You are threatening BELL as to why he doesn't act upon a perspective slip that you claim a mafia aligned BELL made.

Okay I am going to go find a large bottle of liquor and go to sleep I cannot handle this any more.

it's Day 1 so I have no mech to go off of

but I was giving Bell a nth chance

-TL

you can't threaten a person with a perspective slip that person made because the perspective slip requires that person to be mafia in the first place

so if bell is town obviously its not a perspective slip to him because he knows he's town and he knows I haven't been perspective slipped.

you can't perspective slip someone if you're town.

[Relativistic Harmony]

the post exists regardless of Bell's alignment

-TL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you are telling Bell

"Hi, Pooky is town via perspective slip - unvote him or you are scumclaiming"

except the perspective slip is <Bell -> Pooky>

which means if Bell is town, he knows Pooky isn't perspective slipped because it's not possible for Bell to perspective slip Pooky as town if Bell is town.

[Relativistic Harmony]

i think that i'm going to talk to tlich in our hydra pt that his definition of slip is off.
~rh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm gonna go to sleep gnight don't do anything silly while I'm asleep

[Relativistic Harmony]

I'm gonna go to sleep gnight don't do anything silly while I'm asleep

pinky promise.
~rh

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Confused 11-pages-overnight noises

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Dayvig on Bell would solve a lot of things for people here, most likely.
But I can’t complain when I didn’t even ask for a dayvig power over PURE CHAOS.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunnstral

Comrade Firebringer, while our interactions in the past have sadly been few, I now feel compelled to ask why have you aimed your lens of suspicion at Comrade Dunnstral? Perusing the minutes of our past union meetings, the only time I can find you mentioning them was in missive #285. I had assumed this was in jest rather than a serious accusation of Dunn being a perfidious capitalist. Is there any further evidence for these aspersions so I may draw my own conclusions from your logic?

I think dunnstral pressuring Ircher was a safe bet for scum him to get integrated in the game, and more closely mimics his scum game than town game. His town game is slow and methodical, here he has more takes that seem more fleshed out. Its too fast for town!dunnstral imo.

Can you show an example of this?

[Dunnstral]

I can’t tell if Dunn was serious with their early push on Ircher. I’m not complaining, but I can never read that guy.

I was serious, I think Ircher was being weird.

okay this post I consider extremely strange

considering 258 (the post this post was referring to) was a strange opening post, this post just gives that post a scummy context

-TL

What does this mean?

[Dunnstral]

That looked Memey to you? How.
Your perspective is so weird, I don't know what to make it of it lol.

it looked like that post wasn't meant to be taken too seriously

therefore, a memey post that is content



in the lens of that post being a serious post however, it is scummy because being memey is towny

-TL

1074 is a scummy post even without context however as I don't think Dunnstral's Ircher read comes from a town mindset

-TL

OK. I think you are just saying things at this point and it is hard to see this as real thoughts.

[lemon.tangerine]

tbh only now caught up and like im kinda bored

[Dunnstral]

Dunn does tend to end up defending me as either alignment,

Probably true. I think you are usually town too, and getting pushed early.

ok sure if you don't want a game from years ago here's one that happened recently that I played with bell

his iso:

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=83&t=91473&user_select%5B%5D=34613

notice how much more scumhunting and sharp pushing of town objectives there is in this

I dont really trust any meta statements from that bear, and i dont have time to make the research myself so if someone else could confirm or deny that, that'd be nice, preferably someone im townreading that isnt Bell.

No I don't think this is an accurate claim. I think in this game they've talked about their reads about as much as in that game. Perhaps pooky can point out how in that game there is sharp pushing of town objectives to compare to this game.

[Dunnstral]

Unfed troll is sad troll

I suggest trolling maria, its very easy to do and yields many reactions.
u don't need to put much effort in

is maria even playing anymore or did she get bored and ghost

I’m still deciding if beeboy only making 1 post is something I should consider.
If my memory serves correctly he hates playing scum.

I think it's the opposite and they hate playing as town

[lemon.tangerine]

i assume we have 4 mafia due to the player amount,

so gth Maid hydra/Dunn / + 2 others are mafia?

[Dunnstral]

Reading through these Ircher posts make me less inclined to vote for them.

[Dunnstral]

i assume we have 4 mafia due to the player amount,

so gth Maid hydra/Dunn / + 2 others are mafia?

What is your reasoning?

[lemon.tangerine]

i assume we have 4 mafia due to the player amount,

so gth Maid hydra/Dunn / + 2 others are mafia?

What is your reasoning?

just d1 poe

[lemon.tangerine]

if i trust a townread on Titus, Ircher, Lto, Bell, Pooky, Hst, Hutao, Joyboy, Other hydra rh Harmony smth (forgot name), Sakura, Firebringer, Laplician

That leaves
Doctor drew
lightski
Maid cafe

though i doubt the game is this easy

[lemon.tangerine]

if i trust a townread on Titus, Ircher, Lto, Bell, Pooky, Hst, Hutao, Joyboy, Other hydra rh Harmony smth (forgot name), Sakura, Firebringer, Laplician

That leaves
Doctor drew
lightski
Maid cafe
Dunnstral

though i doubt the game is this easy

ebwop

[lemon.tangerine]

Realistically ppl im fine with towning d1 are:

Ircher
Hydra (Harmony, Rh9)
Lto
Titus
Firebringer
Sakura
Hst
Bell

The rest are weaker, those being:

Hutao
Joyboy
Laplician
Pooky

sooo hmm

[Dunnstral]

Actually, no, dont bother, ill just ignore any meta arguments from here on out
VOTE: Pooky

VOTE: Pooky

explain why you would vote obvious town that was townspewed by a perspective slip

this applies to both Sakura Hana and Bell

without an explanation I am treating this as a scumclaim

-TL

What is the perspective slip you are talking about here?

I thought the alleged perspective slip people were talking about earlier was that Bell was mafia for not considering Pooky as town. I don't agree with that and explained why but that is what I saw, it looks like you are using this to assume Pooky town?

[Dunnstral]

Actually, no, dont bother, ill just ignore any meta arguments from here on out
VOTE: Pooky

VOTE: Pooky

explain why you would vote obvious town that was townspewed by a perspective slip

this applies to both Sakura Hana and Bell

without an explanation I am treating this as a scumclaim

-TL

its actually wild TL is asking Bell why he would vote me when I'm perspective spewed as Town by Bell's perspective spew

in fact bell even claiming that he expected he might get voted out in

this game

is the SUREST tell that he is definitely mafia because town!Bell never expects to get mis-eliminated

in fact he even had some long ass streak of never getting mis-eliminated like ever that I finally broke in Pokemon because he's sooooo obviously town when he's town that its basically impossible to yeet him.

i disagree tbh, because the guy has treestump sooo

wdym

Greetings from "it is the middle of the night and I keep waking up and PookyTheMagicalBear just saw what I saw and it WORRIES me" land.

Because that sure feels like somebody who doesn't actually know the underlying argument and just is trying to use the "spew" to threaten people, because they know the "spew" is correct and yet don't care to learn the details since they know all alignments and that is LITERALLY keeping me up at night.

PookyTheMagicalBear talk me off this ledge, please?

Didn't notice until this was pinted out by Pooky but I agree it is weird that they are asking Bell why they are voting for Pooky. The internal logic should not add up here.

[Dunnstral]

the last time I yeeted RH for a scumslip tho he flipped town granted this is TL but still it's actually wild how often you lose games on mafiascum because your teammates can't help scumslipping all over themselves

Yeah I was in that game it was crazy.

They said there was only 2 vanilla townies when they were a claimed vanilla townie and 2 vanilla townies were dead. They were town.

I'm not sure why they are so confident in Bell having perspective slipped when they make posts like that themselves.

[lemon.tangerine]

sooo dunnstral any objections or thoughts abt my poe?