Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[Save The Dragons]

i replaced into a game that naerys was scum in, 5 players left.

i read the entire game in like a day and came to the conclusion that naerys was the remaining scum.

naerys in that game was doing much more, fakeclaiming FN with a scum buddy, just being more present. I feel like her lackadaisical attitude here is town indicative.

[Save The Dragons]

gob-naerys-dannflor-monkey is nice town block on python right there,
if bussing happened we need to look into Black-StD-Dave and out of those i feel dave is the most likely to be scum

um

ok

[T-Bone]

my argument is not tbone does fluff
it is more that tbone has done a lot of fluff in an attempt to look busy without driving the game forward.
it is a vibe read when i look at your iso, i feel like you're lurking in the shadows and just kind of there

in regards to your question to drew, let me ask you this:

if you disagree with drew stating to "ignore python," where is any post where you personally take python into consideration?

Honestly I'm not sure. I was focused on Dann's interactions and reads yesterday and nodding along to Ranger's analysis of Python (which is what Drew was taking issue with). But I am guilty of not doing my own independent analysis. I'm just trusting Ranger's because I townread her. Maybe blindly, good call out.

[humaneatingmonkey]

ahh she's scumhunting and she doesn't give a fuck

it's an easy tonal townread if you think about it, but not easy to eliminate if your playstyle is PoE scumhunting

[Save The Dragons]

how about you prove me wrong then

[T-Bone]

i think it's because i strongly believed JV was scum, and so the "never voting Naerys" is a scum signal for me because it seemed like an easy pocket to just townread Naerys. but std has done it, and now t-bone has done it, so maybe it isn't as reliable as i want it to be.

maybe a scrutiny of why people that townread naerys would townread naerys, and an assessment of how believable their townread would be?

To be clear my mason quip was because we had a parallel situation where STD was yelling about me for taking potshots and Dave was yelling about Naerys taking potshots and I thought that was funny.

Naerys remains in a secondary could be scum tier for me.

[Ranger]

when for most of the game T-Bone was like "here's a zinger, okay time to disappear for a day"

It'll blow your mind when you realize what Naerys' content this game has been.

'"here's a zinger, time to disappear" is an apt description of her iso.

If you're incapable of reading a playstyle, that is not a fault on my end.

I don't think Naerys is clear, I just think she's probably town. As far as her not giving analysis or not really doing anything at all... she does that very frequently as town. I've played with her a lot recently and I don't find this behavior scum indicative for her

The playstyle is not the reason for my scumread.

The nature of her popins is.

I believe usesPython has very strongly partnered interactions with Naerys.
If JacksonVirgo is scum, I believe Ausuka has very strongly partnered interactions with Naerys.
I believe Naerys's pop-ins have strongly spewed her as scum with usesPython, and if JacksonVirgo is scum, with them as well.

They're out of sight, out of mind, but those interactions are there if you look at the iso.

I believe Naerys's content is being ignored as "this is just Naerys" combined with "Naerys voted usesPython, therefore Naerys town", and if you actually looked at the

nature

of her pop-ins and critically analyzed them, you would see this isn't just a playstyle thing; it's not Naerys just being Naerys. It's her as scum.

[Ranger]

im just going to ignore the rest of your garbage from now on probably

That's your right.

Let's see how well it affects your odds of winning.

[Naerys]

Ranger, you are so incredibly

wrong

[Ranger]

apologies if i'm being rude but i'm not going to sit here and be told i suck by someone i genuinely think is scum (which means i don't suck because i caught her)

Your belief matters little in the face of reality. However, I recall no comments about saying you suck.

It's factual you have no more than one scum in your crosshairs though because you've focused on {Ranger, T-Bone} so you either have one scum or no scum. I reserve my right to snark at someone doing the very thing they believe me guilty of.

or if she is town, she is scumsiding so heavily without remorse or awareness

I am fully remorseful for having made the mistake of believing the mafia were the masonteam and the masons the mafiateam D1. I've acknowledged that mistake and remain fully aware of it. If you think I haven't, perhaps you're not reading my posts as I've never once said otherwise.

To think I am scumsiding past D1 is a belief uniquely wrong, as I immediately corrected my perception and did a full 180 on my reads. I directly inverted them, and with the information I had gotten the masons/mafia backwards, I laid out why the mafia are the mafia.

You called that effort ridiculous, faked, no way it was genuine, yet that was my having done the work to correct it and showing the evidence for it.

[Save The Dragons]

maybe that's not the only thing you're guilty of doing

[DragonEater70]

VC 3.03

Votecount 3.03

JacksonVirgo (4):

humaneatingmonkey, Naerys, Black, Ranger

[E-1]

T-Bone (2):

JacksonVirgo, Save The Dragons

Black (1):

T-Bone

Not Voting (2):

Doctor Drew, davesaz

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-08 01:56:12).

Mod notes:

• Combined mod ISO

[Naerys]

happy scumday Dragon

[Ranger]

i dont mean to impose but can town please talk to each other with respect from now on

I always talk with respect. If there is any perception otherwise, then I need it pointed out in a way which I can see the wrongdoing on my part and correct it so they see the same respect I always intend.

I certainly get snarky with those who wrongly read me, yet my snark still carries with it respect. If I ever fail to, then I will immediately apologize and correct the behavior in question to be more mindful. (I've cut down on snark when asked to.) As far as I know, I've treated everyone with that care.

[Ranger]

gob and i shared this idea that we are sus at naerys for their reactions

I certainly agree. That's the first thing I noticed about Naerys.

Her reactions the whole game have felt faked. When I believed her a mason, I wrote it off as a mason not knowing how to hide herself. Knowing she isn't one, I've a different theory now.

[Naerys]

gob and i shared this idea that we are sus at naerys for their reactions

I certainly agree. That's the first thing I noticed about Naerys.

Her reactions the whole game have felt faked. When I believed her a mason, I wrote it off as a mason not knowing how to hide herself. Knowing she isn't one, I've a different theory now.

I am not faking anything, thank you very much.

[Ranger]

it's day 3 and we have no alignment indicative stuff from davesaz and naerys

Perhaps you can take a look at usesPython's treatment of Naerys.

And cross-reference it with Ausuka's treatment of Naerys.

Then JacksonVirgo's treatment of Naerys.

Then take a look at Naerys's interaction with usesPython.

And how Naerys positioned herself yesterday to delay the JacksonVirgo elimination.

And if this is too large an ask, I've done most of this work already and can give you a refresher.

[DragonEater70]

happy scumday Dragon

Much appreciated.

[Ranger]

maybe that's not the only thing you're guilty of doing

Well then enlighten me.

I'll fully own up to mistakes where they exist.

[Naerys]

* some incomprehensible noise*

there, fixed

[T-Bone]

VOTE: Naerys

[JacksonVirgo]

I think I've played with JV before and remember them saying that their emotional game is good. Don't have a quote to back that up, unfortunately.

I don't remember ever saying that

[JacksonVirgo]

Since you're giving him hope, let me return the L-1.

cruel

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys

Good idea
VOTE: Naerys

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Naerys

Good idea
VOTE: Naerys

VOTE: Nae

Great idea it seems