JOAT uPick | FIN!

[Sakura Hana]

Oh well
VOTE: Hu Tao
Back here

[light_ganski]

Hu Tao was redirected Drew
Drew was redirected Hu Tao
Actions targeting Hu Tao was redirected to target Bell.

Lemon was targeting light but instead targeted Bell.
Titus was targeting Hu Tao but instead targeted Bell

Lap targeted Hu Tao, Drew, and Lemon. However, since action targeting Hu Tao was redirected to target Bell instead, Lap actually targeted Bell, Drew, and Lemon.

Lap received something. Thus, whatever affected Bell was not a lightning rod.

Unsolved: Why was Lemon redirected from Light to Bell?

Titus watcher result: Lap and lemon targeted Bell.
lemon was redirected from Light to Bell.
Titus intended watch was Hu Tao.
Drew was redirected to Hu Tao and viceversa. (But they had no actions anyway).
Titus should've seen the Redirector or the Bus Driver unless they are Ninja, as they are the ones targeting Bell.
Which means either Lap or lemon is the scum we're looking for and is lying (again unless Ninja)

give me a second to get my head round this

[Bell]

Every single action last night besides fractional ones went to Bell.

You claimed you watched Bell, right? If your action goes after mine you should see everyone who used a N1 action then.

YW

Why would you do this?

[Titus]

I'm not sure which is more asinine this game or my client who gets his soverign legal advice through tiktok.

Let the zoomers decide who is guilty and who is not.

If only zoomers sat on juries xD. I might do trial by meme.

[Maid Cafe]

Every single action last night besides fractional ones went to Bell.

You claimed you watched Bell, right? If your action goes after mine you should see everyone who used a N1 action then.

YW

Why would you do this?

Why not? :^)

[Hu Tao]

So.. someone who scumreads me. Why am i scum

[LadyTerminallyOffline]

As somebody who does not scum read your play, my understanding is the argument originally was that only mafia would want to cause a redirect from you to bell, to protect you from roles.

But this new info seems to refute that, so I do want the case spelled out for me as well.

[light_ganski]

Every single action last night besides fractional ones went to Bell.

You claimed you watched Bell, right? If your action goes after mine you should see everyone who used a N1 action then.

YW

Why would you do this?

Why not? :^)

are you serious?

[light_ganski]

surely this is a policy lim VOTE: maid cafe

[Ircher]

Two things.

Sorry at work.

1. Favorite vegetable is tomatoes. I received a message addressed to Hu Tao.
2. I have a bomb strapped to me, I die at the end of the day. I get three guesses on who planted the bomb on my chest, it explodes at the end of the game day.

#2 is quite interesting.

Bell - sus
Joyboy - I don't hate at the moment. He did the same thing as town last game.
Dunnstral - who?
Maid Cafe - mindmelted could be town
HolySpiritTurtle- who?
Laplacian - very similar to the town lap I saw for 2 games, role-playing aside
greedant - who?
PookyTheMagicalBear - don't hate any of their posts
Firebringer - prob town seems more natural than his scum game
Sakura Hana - could be scum, when she was scum she was similar to this
LadyTerminallyOffline - mind melted could be town
Relativistic Harmony - who?
light_ganski -who?
lemon.tangerine - scum
Titus - I think she gets more obvious as the day goes on.
Ircher - I was scum with him before and it's similar so far but not a reliable read. Leaning null

For instance, her list here had way too many people that she had zero read on.

If I were scum, what's stopping me from making up reads for people I didn't have reads for?

Making up reads still takes some effort. I don't find this a very convincing counterargument.

I already submitted a pooky guess in my note PT.
But I did it before N1 resolved haven’t looked if mod responded.

But yeah feel free to control the rest, I don’t care.

You probably won't believe me, but I didn't do any night action. So it wasn't me

Did you do nothing because you had nothing you could do, or did you do nothing purposefully?

Good morning comrades! I hope that we are all well rested and ready to resume our glorious revolution! Through a combination of meditation, interrogation, and rooting through garbage for suspicious evidence, I believe I have identified several comrades who are, surprisingly, trustworthy

Weird choice to post this then not actually, you know, just come out and say them in the same post. But you do you.


I have to say the last bits of yesterday were thrilling, and I see why folks play this game more often than once a decade.

Going to wait for a little longer to see if there's claims of a redirector or bus driver

At least one person got fucked up with

Good to know, which means we'll want to take these results cautiously until we know all the shifts that happened.

Last night I used a triple parity cop. Hu Tao, Doctor Drew, and lemon.tangerine all have the same win condition. Which means either I nailed scum team or more likely, they're all town. If any of those 3 were bus drove, hopefully we can backtrace it and figure out who was actually copped

Even with redirection, that seems ridiculously strong.

Also, someone also gave me a one-shot item. Thank you anonymous comrade for redistributing your abilities to the masses according to their needs!

Wait so there is no redirection? I'm so confused

No one claimed to redirect to/from Laplace. Why are you confused?

hu tao feels increasingly desperate as the walls close in around her.

I agree.

We are not sure if this is a redirect or a bus driver, so let's not jump to conclusions. It's equally possible that the bomb was targeted at Bell directly, and that it was a redirect NOT a bus drive.

I'd still find that pretty incriminating for Hu Tao. Pooky's argument makes a lot of sense.

[Maid Cafe]

Some people came here to think of broken roles we just picked fun ones and X ones

X will be revealed with time.

[light_ganski]

I for one, consider it a great success

fucking really

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why not? :^)

4. Play towards your win condition. Gambits are fine, directly harming your own team is not.

[Bell]

It’s not policy to me, but Maid, I do need reasoning, not a troll joke.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Speaking of, would a Maid scum come out and say that they were the cause of all redirections?

probably not but if she's mafia and got away with it it would be legendary

[Maid Cafe]

It’s not policy to me, but Maid, I do need reasoning, not a troll joke.

As I said, picked a high volume target, and thought it would be funny.

[Maid Cafe]

I for one, consider it a great success

fucking really

if something like this upsets you take a break tbh

[Bell]

What do you mean by high volume
Target?

[light_ganski]

It’s not policy to me, but Maid, I do need reasoning, not a troll joke.

As I said, picked a high volume target, and thought it would be funny.

please tell me what this means

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

in my opinion maid's role as claimed is massively scum favoring

redirecting every action to bell pretty much gurantees the scum nightkill will go through

furthermore it ruins any investigative powers used on the first night

given that most powerful town power roles will try to fire early to get info when its early and the joat nature of this setup meaning any used roles are wasted, this feels more like a scum power than a town one. I struggle to see what the point of this role is from a town POV like how does it supposed to help us.

lastly the only redirected roles to bell were laplacian, sakura, titus and lemon tangerine.

if all of these players are town - it would mean not a single scum used their night actions last night. an explanation for this could be because the scum knew a mass redirector was going off so they decided to save their night actions for later - which necesitates that Maid Cafe is on the scum team.

Lastly I see no plausible reason a town aligned player would use such a role because "lol its fun"

Part of our role confirmation process was to affirm that we would play to our own win condition.

I dont have any idea why Maria would decide to voluntarily out that she did this except maybe to deflect away from Hu Tao but she's not even doing that so shrug who knows maybe she wants to get killed today for some reason.

[lemon.tangerine]

Really?

[Maid Cafe]

What do you mean by high volume
Target?

High volume aka good info target aka posts a lot

[Bell]

Even better, I don’t really die after.
But you didn’t mention that.

[Maid Cafe]

in my opinion maid's role as claimed is massively scum favoring

redirecting every action to bell pretty much gurantees the scum nightkill will go through

furthermore it ruins any investigative powers used on the first night

given that most powerful town power roles will try to fire early to get info when its early and the joat nature of this setup meaning any used roles are wasted, this feels more like a scum power than a town one. I struggle to see what the point of this role is from a town POV like how does it supposed to help us.

lastly the only redirected roles to bell were laplacian, sakura, titus and lemon tangerine.

if all of these players are town - it would mean not a single scum used their night actions last night. an explanation for this could be because the scum knew a mass redirector was going off so they decided to save their night actions for later - which necesitates that Maid Cafe is on the scum team.

Lastly I see no plausible reason a town aligned player would use such a role because "lol its fun"

Part of our role confirmation process was to affirm that we would play to our own win condition.

I dont have any idea why Maria would decide to voluntarily out that she did this except maybe to deflect away from Hu Tao but she's not even doing that so shrug who knows maybe she wants to get killed today for some reason.

You should go see a doctor, having to reach that hard might've dislocated something.

[Maid Cafe]

Even better, I don’t really die after.
But you didn’t mention that.

Duh, there's no point using the action on someone I think is gonna die.