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Post Post #3300 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:34 pm

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In post 3297, Bell wrote: I’m just confused why you’re glad Hu Tao checked you when it just reflected it back at them. They know their own alignment, and the most that would happen is that they’d be confused why you’re showing up as scum when they know you aren’t.
We have a total 3 cop claims so far. With a rolecop in play (hi lemon), do you think scum wouldn’t get a town looking role as a false positive? So, I believe that Hu Tao is scum with a cop shot.

But with a cop guilty on my back, the only thing that’s really going to speak loud is my flip, so.
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Post Post #3301 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:35 pm

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At this point for me, it’s whether if I go first or does Hu Tao go first.
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Post Post #3302 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:35 pm

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Either way we’re getting a scumflip soon (tm)
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Post Post #3303 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:36 pm

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Does it matter whether Hu Tao actually has that role if they called you guilty.
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Post Post #3304 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:37 pm

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WCS is Hu Tao faking a guilty as town, but at that point it’s not really on me, so.
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Post Post #3305 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:39 pm

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In post 3303, Bell wrote: Does it matter whether Hu Tao actually has that role if they called you guilty.
No, not really. Verifying my reflect only tells that Hu Tao checked her own alignment if she actually had a cop shot to use.

In the end, I’m town, I’m most likely getting flipped today, and y’all will lim Hu Tao tomorrow. That’s the end of the story.
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Post Post #3306 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:40 pm

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Weren’t you already pushing at them and given the game state where most people were against hu Tao, why aren’t you inclined to think it’s them being desperate scum making a play?
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Post Post #3307 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:45 pm

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Hi Tao, would you fake claim a cop guilty as town?
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Post Post #3308 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:45 pm

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In post 3307, Bell wrote: Hu Tao, would you fake claim a cop guilty as town?
EBWOP.
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Post Post #3309 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:52 pm

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In post 3306, Bell wrote: Weren’t you already pushing at them and given the game state where most people were against hu Tao, why aren’t you inclined to think it’s them being desperate scum making a play?
I don’t know what you’re asking me here. Not even once I townread Hu Tao and I even said I planned to tunnel her even if she claims inno on me.
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Post Post #3310 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:54 pm

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If anything, I’m glad that I don’t have to make a case or something to get Hu Tao limmed anymore. Saves effort for me and I can mingle with Firebringer in dead PT.
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Post Post #3311 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:56 pm

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I’m saying your perspective doesn’t make sense.
Why would verifying that you have a reflect matter if Hu Tao was telling the truth about their ability as town or scum, or whether they were lying about it.

It’s like you’re posturing without a logical posture. It’s lizard/monkey brain pageantry, you’re puffed up, but your focus shouldn’t be there.

It’s late so I’m probably just confused.
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Post Post #3312 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:08 pm

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In post 3311, Bell wrote: I’m saying your perspective doesn’t make sense.
Why would verifying that you have a reflect matter if Hu Tao was telling the truth about their ability as town or scum, or whether they were lying about it.

It’s like you’re posturing without a logical posture. It’s lizard/monkey brain pageantry, you’re puffed up, but your focus shouldn’t be there.

It’s late so I’m probably just confused.
Oh the whole reflect verification part. Partly because I personally believe Hu Tao actually used a cop shot. I’m literally the only person who was being vocal about Hu Tao, while not providing much details about it. Her cop check claim didn’t come from desperation. If anything, I believe that she did that to make her look town. That’s all she’ve been caring about this entire game, after all. That “ayo guilty” post I believe is made with genuine surprise because she didn’t expect it coming and probably thought it would make her reaction more genuine. Clearly there was some mech to fuck with it so she prob thought she could get away with it even if I flip town.

She probably didn’t expect a reflection though lol.

But that’s for me. For y’all, flipping me is what’s natural and expected than believing my reflect claim AND Hu Tao’s cop claim.
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Post Post #3313 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:56 pm

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tbh we can just kill maid and let this self resolve
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Post Post #3314 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:56 pm

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or kill light
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Post Post #3315 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:57 pm

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like poe of maid cafe/ light / [Hst/Hutao] wins the game
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Post Post #3316 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:58 pm

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if there is reflector on hst, which otherwise is a pretty quick thinking fps if lying.

It disproves any check on hutao regarding their alignment
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Post Post #3317 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:59 pm

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VOTE: MariaR

we can kill hutao tomorrow imo or light whichever ig
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Post Post #3318 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:59 pm

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Maid Cafe ain’t scum here, especially when Hu Tao is scum.
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Post Post #3319 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:08 pm

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In post 3313, lemon.tangerine wrote: tbh we can just kill maid and let this self resolve
Nothing self resolved here, we need to kill them
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Post Post #3320 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:12 pm

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In post 3063, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: I do have a gun!
In post 3064, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: All I’m going to say is that my action is very very provable.
HST didn't say the gunsmith made sense, they specifically confirmed having a gun. Plus their action is not provable despite their claim. This reflector claim is a new angle to explain a new role being used on them.
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Post Post #3321 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:14 pm

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In post 3317, lemon.tangerine wrote: VOTE: MariaR

we can kill hutao tomorrow imo or light whichever ig
There is 0 information to be gained by waiting for a day
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Post Post #3322 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:14 pm

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Idk Dunn I’d say announcing and messaging cop is a very provable action. If I get roleblocked I get the one shot refunded, and I can straight up tell people that I’m visiting them, along with a mod message that a cop visited them.
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Post Post #3323 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:16 pm

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You can be mafia and have that role
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Post Post #3324 (ISO) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:18 pm

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Yeah, I can. But its still provable role that shows I have a gun regardless of my alignment, no?

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