Kemusan - Game Over

[Bell]

I dunno what Cabd likes more, all I know is that he’d run through razor wire to win as scum.
Or town really lol.

[Enchant]

Bell mafia

[fferyllt]

I dunno what Cabd likes more, all I know is that he’d run through razor wire to win as scum.
Or town really lol.

Do you have a HST read?

[Bell]

I think they’re GIF and I’m not sure. I think how they’ve handled their entrance this game if it is gif means they’re town simply because they haven’t shut down.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

I

[Bell]

I might’ve imagined it but I think they offered to dance I’m considering it, even though I respect GIF’s neighborhood game and think they could run rings around me if they’ve got a groove going on.

Also alt guesses, I’m never right. Why do I bother.

[Bell]

I might’ve been a little too honest there.
Or maybe impulsive stream of thought, haha maybe you shouldn’t say every stray thought that passes your way, maybe there’s a good reason for that filter.

[Bell]

Oh, I did hallucinate that they asked me to dance.
Or Pooky didn’t update their board.
Either or.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

I don’t know but if I was this GIF person you were speaking of, I’d be absolutely heartbroken after reading what you just posted right now.

[fireisredsir]

ladies can't ask gents formally we're traditional here

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Anyway, I’ve decided. As much as I want to dance with fery, I should really let the person who came back from the grave just to dance with fery dance with fery.

Yes, I know, I know, speaking as if I ever had a chance

So

Bell, Dance with me

I want my arms about you
The charms about you
Will carry me through to

I did ask, btw. So no, you’re not hallucinating.

[Bell]

Sorry, I love you.

[fferyllt]

Oh, I did hallucinate that they asked me to dance.
Or Pooky didn’t update their board.
Either or.

He did ask, but for Pooky's purposes you have to ask HST. So think of it as an invitation for you to invite.

I'm townreading him, and between Spiffeh and him (and you), I feel like I have a structure I can use to evaluate other stuff. And that's a good feeling.

My one footnote is that the poker face about his read on me slipped so quickly, unless I just misunderstood his post.

[fireisredsir]

ig sorta related
not super familiar with a lot of the players here, but i remember bell and i think i played with fireisred (ig this sounds better than "not dog fire")
i think i operate from the baseline assumption that someone is just more comfortable as town than scum, but is there anyone in this list who swings the other way?

varies a lot based on game and my mood. there's definitely a lot of times i'm more comfortable as scum but i was hoping for town in this one for a few reasons

[fireisredsir]

also heads up im gonna not be around very much this weekend. hopefully

[Enchant]

Fire is mafia.

[fferyllt]

Speaking of which, since vibes aren't a big part of your sorting process what data channels do you like to use?

Spoiler: i don't think this is relevant to the game and it's too long so it goes in a spoiler

actually in general vibes are a somewhat big part of my process, particularly early. but i don't think the vibe reads are worth very much if i don't know the person well. i think they can be pretty effective with people i do understand but it's still like a starting point, something that indicates to me that i should look further

i don't think there's really a consistent rubric that i apply to people for the sake of sorting, but i tend to try to look beneath the words on the page to think about the thought process of the person who wrote them. and then weighing up whether there's a possible thought process that makes sense coming from a town brain, and whether there's one that makes sense coming from a scum brain

i would say this is probably my biggest metric for reading someone as evidenced by the fact that i find it very difficult to know how to sort someone if i feel like i don't understand how their brain works. i would also tangentially say that the investigative but never conclusive process of discovering how someone else's brain works is probably the main motivator for me to play mafia at all. it's somewhat rare to find an activity where people put their brain so openly and publicly on display

in practice this results in me looking for actions and posts that stand out as not making sense coming from one alignment in particular, and those tend to form the strongest bases for my reads

i do also like just talking to people and having real time interaction and reading them that way, although im not always confident that it leads to successful results. depends on the situation

and i tend to look at the game/gamestate as a whole and try to think about how scum would want to position in the current state of things, both individually and as a team, and what their goals would be. i probably tend to overestimate the level of coordination that scumteams have. this tends to be most useful in hindsight, rereading the game to see if someone's actions can be viewed in a different light if we assume that they at the time had alignment information that we as town only got later in the game

those are probably the main data channels although also probably not the only ones

Thanks. I see some of this in your play so far.

But I am concerned by how uncharitably you interpreted that post you jumped on.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Fire is mafia.

Normally this is the moment when I would townread you for randomly throwing calling people mafia, but you called Firebringer a SK instead so the whole tell is invalidated. Sorry!

[Enchant]

There's two fires

[Bell]

Dance proposal, HST

[Spiffeh]

I won't be around much the next 24 hours (unless I'm phone posting tonight) so I decided to reread and have honored my promise of reevaluating Firebringer in that he is no longer a townread.

I feel like his scum reads on ffery and Bell may just be for shock value to play into his chaotic town gameplay because it's hard for me to believe that he actually feels that way as they are transparently town to me. And while I don't want to discourage his effort-posting I think he's dipping his toe into exiting troll mode little earlier than I've come to expect from town!FB, but I also haven't been playing games the past two years so what do I know?!

I am side-eyeing a lot of Cabd posts but that's not really unusual, and I am waiting for a certain shoe to drop that may or may not make me feel some type of way about him (it's not that important and I've already devoted more words than necessary to say that Cabd is pretty null)

Upon reread, feeling decent about STD, still not thrilled with the other fire (maybe both Fires are scum!)

I also have a non-LLD dance partner in mind so stay tuned!

[Enchant]

Spiffeh is... Town......?

[fferyllt]

Spiffeh is... Town......?

Is that a read or a question?

[Enchant]

Yes

[fireisredsir]

But I am concerned by how uncharitably you interpreted that post you jumped on.

i find it difficult to understand a town mindset behind making the post and i find it easy to understand a scum mindset behind it

i still don't really see how it's a line of inquiry that would be relevant to my alignment and if it's just for the sake of engagement then it's also strange because it provides very little to actually engage with since it's a complete dead end